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Enroute Class pass rate

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  1. PointSixty5stalker #3461
    bomber996 said:

    CTI grad there? What's this new academy training order?

    The "qualified candidate" debate is always contentious. Unfortunately there is no mold that makes an ATC candidate "qualified". Just because you have previous aviation experience doesn't mean you're going to be good at this job. Some of our best trainees came with ZERO aviation experience. One of the top graduates in my academy class had been on an airplane TWICE in their life. Some of the worst trainees I've seen have a shit attitude because of their prior experience. That being said, yes, having aviation experience SHOULD give you a leg up, but it doesn't directly correlate to success.

    I get it. I graduated CTI two months before they changed the rules.

    Nothing about who gets picked up. They have been talking about changing up the academy training and extending time there so once d side fundamentals are set then how to transfer on to radar and having trainees control simulated traffic

  2. AB19 #3462

    Imagine if they spent the month on non radar on actual controlling

  3. BPM31694 #3463
    AB19 said:

    Imagine if they spent the month on non radar on actual controlling

    Here at ZAN we use non radar for actual controlling. Runway instructions, crossing restrictions, 1, 3, and 5 minute departure rules, etc.

  4. bomber996 #3464

    If you think that bad habits are instilled at the Academy for D-sides, just wait until they start training you on the R-side.

    Holy. Shit.

  5. Mike Kilo #3465
    BPM31694 said:

    Here at ZAN we use non radar for actual controlling. Runway instructions, crossing restrictions, 1, 3, and 5 minute departure rules, etc.

    Exactly the point. Wouldn’t you rather have a trainee in house with an extra month to work on that non radar and learning the real airspace? No data dumping bullshit academy land.

  6. BPM31694 #3466
    Mike Kilo said:

    Exactly the point. Wouldn’t you rather have a trainee in house with an extra month to work on that non radar and learning the real airspace? No data dumping bullshit academy land.

    It’s an extra 3 months, and it’s pass fail! Lol Made the academy non radar look like a joke.

  7. Mike Kilo #3467
    BPM31694 said:

    It’s an extra 3 months, and it’s pass fail! Lol Made the academy non radar look like a joke.

    But how many do you think would make it through with an extra month actually working your airspace instead of academy, that is all we are saying. I had a friend washed on that non radar. Training would always be better in the field than at academy imo.

  8. Raise when? #3468
    Mike Kilo said:

    But how many do you think would make it through with an extra month actually working your airspace instead of academy, that is all we are saying. I had a friend washed on that non radar. Training would always be better in the field than at academy imo.

    If they can’t learn a simplistic dumbed down version how can they learn the real thing when it matters….OKC needs to wash more dummies out, we have been getting some real trash cans the past few years (probably because our pay is so low, but I digress)

  9. JulietWhiskey0314 #3469
    Hope said:

    9/28 Enroute List

    ZSE
    ZDC
    ZLA
    ZME
    ZAB
    ZAB
    ZMA
    ZID
    ZHU
    ZOB
    ZID
    ZJX
    ZOB
    ZTL
    ZMP
    ZAU
    ZDV

    ALTs
    ZNY
    ZNY
    ZAN
    ZAN
    ZSU
    ZSU

    From the ATC new Hiring Discord

    now ZHU and ZJX on the same list. Interesting to see what it'll look like come January. any news on pass rate for the class?

  10. bomber996 #3470
    JulietWhiskey0314 said:

    now ZHU and ZJX on the same list. Interesting to see what it'll look like come January. any news on pass rate for the class?

    Considering the date for the class is 9/28, I'd say there's not much news yet.

  11. JulietWhiskey0314 #3471
    bomber996 said:

    Considering the date for the class is 9/28, I'd say there's not much news yet.

    yeah..... not my brightest moment....

  12. Hope #3472
    Hope said:

    9/28 Enroute List

    ZSE
    ZDC
    ZLA
    ZME
    ZAB
    ZAB
    ZMA
    ZID
    ZHU
    ZOB
    ZID
    ZJX
    ZOB
    ZTL
    ZMP
    ZAU
    ZDV

    ALTs
    ZNY
    ZNY
    ZAN
    ZAN
    ZSU
    ZSU

    From the ATC new Hiring Discord

    Class went 10/17

  13. Fat Porrey #3473
    Raise when? said:

    If they can’t learn a simplistic dumbed down version how can they learn the real thing when it matters….OKC needs to wash more dummies out, we have been getting some real trash cans the past few years (probably because our pay is so low, but I digress)

    Yup. As long as we’re underpaid they’ll keep getting these shitty candidates.

    RAZE WEN?

  14. Hope #3474

    10/10 Enroute List

    ZSE
    ZLA
    ZDC
    ZME
    ZMA
    ZJX
    ZID
    ZOB
    ZLC
    ZAU
    ZMP
    ZAU
    ZTL
    ZDV
    ZSE

    ALTs
    ZAN
    ZAN
    ZSU
    ZSU
    ZNY
    ZNY

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

  15. twn #3475
    Hope said:

    10/10 Enroute List

    ZSE
    ZLA
    ZDC
    ZME
    ZMA
    ZJX
    ZID
    ZOB
    ZLC
    ZAU
    ZMP
    ZAU
    ZTL
    ZDV
    ZSE

    ALTs
    ZAN
    ZAN
    ZSU
    ZSU
    ZNY
    ZNY

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

    I hope these classes appreciate the depth in their lists. My class had shitty choices with mandatory new yorks

  16. RalphBeast #3476
    twn said:

    I hope these classes appreciate the depth in their lists. My class had shitty choices with mandatory new yorks

    These last few lists have been really nice.

  17. Hope #3477
    Hope said:

    10/10 Enroute List

    ZSE
    ZLA
    ZDC
    ZME
    ZMA
    ZJX
    ZID
    ZOB
    ZLC
    ZAU
    ZMP
    ZAU
    ZTL
    ZDV
    ZSE

    ALTs
    ZAN
    ZAN
    ZSU
    ZSU
    ZNY
    ZNY

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

    Final count is 12/15

  18. Hope #3478

    10/17 Enroute List

    ZSE
    ZLA
    ZLA
    ZDC
    ZME
    ZAB
    ZAB
    ZMA
    ZKC
    ZOB
    ZKC
    ZLC
    ZID
    ZDV

    ALTs
    ZAN
    ZAN
    ZSU
    ZSU

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

  19. Hope #3479
    Hope said:

    10/17 Enroute List

    ZSE
    ZLA
    ZLA
    ZDC
    ZME
    ZAB
    ZAB
    ZMA
    ZKC
    ZOB
    ZKC
    ZLC
    ZID
    ZDV

    ALTs
    ZAN
    ZAN
    ZSU
    ZSU

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

    Class went 6/10. Started with 14 but 4 moved over due to COVID.

  20. Hope #3480

    10/24 Enroute List

    ZSE
    ZLA
    ZLA
    ZDC
    ZAN
    ZME
    ZAN
    ZME
    ZAB
    ZJX
    ZMA
    ZKC
    ZID
    ZLC
    ZAU

    ALTs
    ZSU
    ZSU

    Yes that is correct, 2 ZAN on the main list.

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

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