FAA CRASHPADS Just 5m from the FAA Academy!

Hiring Bid FAA-ATO-18-N90EXP-56712

MJ

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Overview
Open & closing dates
03/19/2018 to 03/26/2018

Service
Excepted

Pay scale & grade
AT AG

Salary
$51,683 to $189,600 per year

This salary range includes 32.13% locality for the position of this vacancy announcement; N90/Westbury, NY.

Appointment type
Temporary - Temporary NTE - Temporary NTE - 13 months
  • Work schedule
    Full-Time
Location
Westbury, NYMany vacancies

Relocation expenses reimbursed
No

This job is open to
The public
U.S. citizens, nationals or those who owe allegiance to the U.S.

Announcement number

FAA-ATO-18-N90EXP-56712

Control number
494263000


Duties
Summary

This is a developmental Air Traffic Control Specialist (ATCS) position responsible for the safe, orderly and expeditious movement of air traffic through the New York Terminal Radar Approach Control (TRACON) airspace.

Business Component:
Air Traffic Organization, Eastern Terminal Service Area, New York TRACON

Responsibilities

THIS ANNOUNCEMENT IS FOR CANDIDATES WHO HAVE MAINTAINED AT LEAST 52 CONSECUTIVE WEEKS OF AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL EXPERIENCE INVOLVING THE FULL-TIME ACTIVE SEPARATION OF AIR TRAFFIC AFTER RECEIPT OF AN ATC CERTIFICATION OR FACILITY RATING WITHIN 5 YEARS OF APPLICATION WHILE SERVING AT:
  • a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) air traffic control facility; OR
  • a civilian or military air traffic control facility of the Department of Defense; OR
  • a tower operating under contract with the FAA under section 47124
Duty location for these positions is N90/NEW YORK TRACON LOCATED IN WESTBURY, NY.

Air Traffic Control Specialists in the Terminal Approach Control provides radar services to aircraft arriving and departing airports and transiting Terminal airspace. They transfer control of aircraft to the ARTCC controller when the aircraft leaves assigned airspace and they receive control of aircraft coming into assigned airspace.

This is a developmental Air Traffic Control Specialist (ATCS) position responsible for the safe, orderly and expeditious movement of air traffic through the New York Terminal Radar Approach Control (TRACON) airspace.
  • As a new ATCS, you will spend your first several weeks of employment in an intensive training program at the FAA Academy in Oklahoma City, OK. While attending training you will be on a temporary appointment. Applicants selected will receive air traffic control training at the FAA Academy, which includes:
    • Complete occupational indoctrination including highlights of Federal employment, familiarization with organizational structure & functions, aircraft, air traffic control system, & aviation industry, classroom instruction & workshop exercises relating to the air traffic control system.
    • FAA Radar Training
    • TRACON Skills Enhancement workshop
    • Advanced TRACON skills training focusing on skills required for success at New York TRACON
  • ATCS's will be paid long term expense rate (per diem) for Oklahoma City, OK to help offset daily cost of living while attending FAA Academy. FAA will pay for cost of travel in accordance with applicable agency policies.
  • Individuals who do not successfully complete training at the FAA Academy and all other necessary requirements will have their employment terminated.
  • Prior failure of FAA Academy training or prior declination of permanent facility placement offer after completing Academy training may constitute a basis for non-selection and/or veterans' preference pass over.
Additional information regarding these positions is located at: Aviation Careers
  • Positions offered may be:
    • AT-2152 AG - this is the position level for selectees who are NOT former FAA 2152 Certified Professional Controllers (CPC); salary $39,115 plus applicable locality pay based on facility assignment.
    • AT-2152 - xD/xF/xG - these are position levels for former FAA developmental controllers rehired within 1 year of separation; salary $47,928 to $109,389 plus applicable locality pay based on facility assignment.
    • Pay rates for FAA employees, including locality pay, are capped by law at $189,600 - the rate for the level II of the Executive Schedule (P.L. 104-264 paragraph 40122 c).
  • Failure to meet training requirements may constitute grounds for reassignment, demotion or separation from employment.
  • You will receive on-the-job training and pay increases, as appropriate, upon successful completion of the progressive phases of controller training at your assigned facility. Part of the on-the-job training may require that you complete certain specific training courses at the FAA Academy in Oklahoma City, OK.
Travel Required
Not required - The job does not require any travel.

Supervisory status
No

Promotion Potential
NA

Who May Apply
This job is open to…
U.S. Citizens - CANDIDATE MUST HAVE A MINIMUM OF 52 CONSECUTIVE WEEKS POST CERTIFICATION AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL EXPERIENCE WITHIN THE LAST 5 YEARS
2152 Air Traffic Control

Requirements

Conditions of Employment
  • US Citizenship is required.
  • Selective Service Registration is required for males born after 12/31/1959.
  • Designated or Random Drug Testing required.
  • 52 WEEKS OF CONSECUTIVE, ATC POST CERTIFICATION EXPERIENCE REQUIRED.
  • CONSECUTIVE, POST CERTIFIED EXPERIENCE MUST BE WITHIN THE LAST 5 YEARS.
  • COPIES OF CERTIFICATIONS MUST BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO CLOSE DATE.
  • Age requirements; see "Qualifications Required" & "Required Doc." sections.
  • Requirement for nonstandard duty hours or work week.
Qualifications
SPECIALIZED EXPERIENCE: ALL APPLICANTS MUST POSSESS A MINIMUM OF AT LEAST 52 CONSECUTIVE WEEKS OF AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL EXPERIENCE INVOLVING THE FULL-TIME ACTIVE SEPARATION OF AIR TRAFFIC AFTER RECEIPT OF AN ATC CERTIFICATION OR FACILITY RATING WITHIN 5 YEARS OF APPLICATION WHILE SERVING AT:
  • a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) air traffic control facility; OR
  • a civilian or military air traffic control facility of the Department of Defense; OR
  • a tower operating under contract with the FAA under section 47124
This experience must have demonstrated possession of the knowledge, skills and abilities required to perform the level of work. This experience must have provided a comprehensive knowledge of the laws, rules, regulations and procedures governing the movement of air traffic; knowledge of aircraft separation standards and control techniques; and the ability to apply them properly, often under conditions of great stress.
  • Applicants MUST submit copies of certifications prior to the closing date of the announcement. (The 52 weeks of consecutive, certified experience cannot include any FAA Academy or military training time prior to certification, as this is not considered "live" air traffic) and must have been within 5 years of application.
  • Applicants should include examples of specialized experience in their Work History. Work history and supporting certificate(s) MUST support the applicant performing as an ATCS for a minimum of 52 consecutive weeks following the issue date of the certification.
  • Applicants MUST document hours per week within their work history/resume (full time experience is credited as 40 hours per week, part time hours will be pro-rated based on 40 hrs per week).
  • There is no educational substitute for the required 52 weeks of specialized experience.
  • Age Requirements: Notwithstanding section 3307 of title 5, the maximum limit of age for an original appointment to a position as an air traffic controller shall be 35 years of age for those maintaining 52 weeks of air traffic control experience involving the full-time active separation of air traffic after receipt of an air traffic certification or air traffic control facility rating in a civilian or military air traffic control facility. Maximum Retention Age: 5 U.S.C. 8335 (a) and 5 U.S.C. 8425 (a) require mandatory separation at age 56 in a career controller position.
  • Service Computation Dates (SCDs) cannot be used for maximum entry age verification purposes, as this could include prior military service and/or current or previous federal civilian service in another occupational series.
  • Applicants who are prior Academy and/or field training failure may not be considered.
  • Basis of Rating: Applications/resumes from qualified candidates will be referred to the selecting official via priority grouping based upon their veterans' preference category.
Education

There is no educational substitute for the required 52 weeks of specialized experience (52 consecutive, post certified ATC experience within 5 years of application).

Make sure your resume includes detailed information to support your qualifications and answers to the job questionnaire.

Additional information
We may use this vacancy to fill other similar vacant positions.
Position may be subject to a background investigation.
A one-year probationary period may be required.
The person selected for this position may be required to file a financial disclosure statement within 30 days of entry on duty. FAA policy limits certain outside employment and financial investments in aviation-related companies.

This position is covered by the Department of Transportation's Drug and Alcohol Testing Program. Any applicant tentatively selected for this position will be subject to pre-employment or pre-appointment drug screening. Persons occupying a "testing designated position (TDP)" will be subject to random drug and/or alcohol testing.

Entrance on Duty Requirements (EOD): If you are unable to complete all of the pre-employment requirements within 90 days from the date of the Clearance Instruction Letter (CIL), the FAA may rescind your tentative job offer for this vacancy. If you are a current military member in active duty service, you must submit a copy of your DD Form-214, or written documentation (certification) from your branch of service certifying that you are expected to be discharged or released from active duty under honorable conditions no later than 120 days after the date the certification is signed.

Certified air traffic control experience required; copies of certifications MUST be submitted by the closing date of the announcement. Please include copies of both the front and back of certifications, if applicable. (Ex: Pink card with designated facility or position ratings on the back of card, CTO card with designated facility on the back of card etc). Military training records may also be utilized if it documents the type of facility or position rating earned and the date it was received.

APPLICANTS MUST UPLOAD ALL REQUIRED DOCUMENTS AT THE SAME TIME AS SUBMISSION OF THE ONLINE APPLICATION. FAILURE TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION WILL RESULT IN DISQUALIFICATION. YOU MUST UPLOAD ALL REQUIRED DOCUMENTS IN ORDER FOR YOUR ELIGIBILITY AND QUALIFICATIONS TO BE CONSIDERED.

This is not a bargaining unit position.

Links to Important Information: Locality Pay , COLA
How You Will Be Evaluated
You will be evaluated for this job based on how well you meet the qualifications above.

IMPORTANT: Applicants may be rated on the extent and quality of experience, education, and training relevant to the duties of the position(s). All answers provided in the on-line process must be substantiated. Ensure that your application package/resume supports your responses.

Background checks and security clearance
Security clearance
Public Trust - Background Investigation

Drug test required
Yes

Required Documents

Certified air traffic control experience required; copies of certifications MUST be submitted by the closing date of the announcement. Please include copies of both the front and back of certifications, if applicable. Ex: Pink card with designated facility or position ratings on the back of card, CTO card with designated facility on the back of card etc). Military training records may also be utilized if it documents the type of facility or position rating earned and the date it was received. These certifications/training records must match up with experience documented in your resume/work history in order to verify the required 52 consecutive weeks of air traffic control experience involving the full-time active separation of air traffic after receipt of an ATC certification or facility rating within 5 years of application.

Applicants, who are maintaining 52 consecutive weeks of ATC experience, after receipt of an air traffic certification or ATC facility rating, must be age 35 or below, on or before the closing date of the vacancy. Applicants previously appointed by the FAA or DOD as a civilian 2152, must also include a copy of a Notification of Personnel Action (SF-50) that verifies original appointment to the civilian 2152 occupational series prior to reaching the maximum entry age of 35. This would be the first Notification of Personnel Action (SF-50/new-hire action into the 2152 series) received. You must provide a copy of this SF-50 prior to the close date of this vacancy. If you were previously a Certified Professional Controller (CPC) or full performance rated (FPL) Controller, please also include an SF-50 that indicates this level of certification.

APPLICANTS MUST UPLOAD ALL REQUIRED DOCUMENTS AT THE SAME TIME AS SUBMISSION OF THE ONLINE APPLICATION. FAILURE TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION WILL RESULT IN DISQUALIFICATION. YOU MUST UPLOAD ALL REQUIRED DOCUMENTS IN ORDER FOR YOUR ELIGIBILITY AND QUALIFICATIONS TO BE CONSIDERED.

All Veterans: If you are claiming veterans' preference, you must submit either a DD Form 214 Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty (Member 4 Copy or equivalent), or a document from the armed forces certifying that within 120 days you are expected to be discharged or released from active duty service under honorable conditions. If you are claiming 10 point preference, you must also submit a completed SF-15, Application for 10-Point Veteran's Preference, and supporting documents outlined on the SF-15. Documents must be uploaded or faxed to the Servicing Human Resource Management Office listed in this announcement and all documents must be received by the closing date of the announcement. If you fail to submit documentation, you will be assessed as a non-veteran.

If you are claiming 10 point preference but fail to submit the supporting documents outlined on the SF-15, you will be tentatively assessed as a 5 point preference eligible provided your DD Form 214 reflects that you have the service required to qualify for preference. Documents must be uploaded or faxed to the Servicing Human Resource Management Office listed in this announcement and all documents must be received by the closing date of the announcement. If you fail to submit documentation, you will be assessed as a non-veteran.

Veterans currently on active duty claiming veterans' preference: You will be granted tentative preference if you submit a document from the armed forces certifying that within 120 days you are expected to be discharged or released from active duty service under honorable conditions and your application shows that you have the required service. Prior to being appointed, you must provide to the Servicing Human Resource Management Office a DD Form 214 documenting discharge/release and showing that the service was honorable or general. If you are on terminal leave, you must provide documentation certifying authorized terminal leave.

If you are relying on your education to meet qualification requirements:
Education must be accredited by an accrediting institution recognized by the U.S. Department of Education in order for it to be credited towards qualifications. Therefore, provide only the attendance and/or degrees from schools accredited by accrediting institutions recognized by the U.S. Department of Education.

Failure to provide all of the required information as stated in this vacancy announcement may result in an ineligible rating or may affect the overall rating.

Benefits
A career with the U.S. Government provides employees with a comprehensive benefits package. As a federal employee, you and your family will have access to a range of benefits that are designed to make your federal career very rewarding. Learn more about federal benefits.

Review our benefits

Eligibility for benefits depends on the type of position you hold and whether your position is full-time, part-time, or intermittent. Contact the hiring agency for more information on the specific benefits offered.

How to Apply
You must apply online to receive consideration. Your application must have a status of "Received"by 11:59 PM Eastern Time on the Close Date for it to be accepted. If you are applying for positions associated with FAA registers, your application must have a status of "Received" each time a referral list is created in order to receive consideration for positions associated with register.

IN DESCRIBING YOUR WORK EXPERIENCE AND/OR EDUCATION, PLEASE BE CLEAR AND SPECIFIC REGARDING YOUR EXPERIENCE OR EDUCATION.

We strongly encourage applicants to utilize the USAJOBS resume builder in the creation of resumes.

Please ensure EACH work history includes ALL of the following information:
  • Job Title (include series and grade if Federal Job)
  • Duties (be specific in describing your duties)
  • Employer's name and address
  • Supervisor name and phone number
  • Start and end dates including month, day and year (e.g. June 18 2007 to April 05 2008)
  • Full-time or part-time status (include hours worked per week)
  • Salary
Determining length of General or Specialized Experience is dependent on the above information and failure to provide ALL of this information may result in a finding of ineligible.

You may upload completed documents to your USAJOBS Account. This will provide you the opportunity to utilize the uploaded information again when applying for future vacancies. Please see this guide, Document Upload Guide, for more information on uploading and re-using the documents in your applications.

Forms:
  • SF-15 : Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference
Agency contact information
Shawn Farmer

Phone
718-553-4175

Fax
718-995-5688

Email
[email protected]

Address
Federal Aviation Administration
Eastern Region Human Resource Office
1 Aviation Plaza.
Jamaica, NY
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Next steps
Candidates for FAA positions are evaluated using our Automated Vacancy Information Access Tool for Online Referral (AVIATOR) system. AVIATOR compares your skills and experience as described in your application with the requirements of the position. If you are found to be an eligible, highly-qualified candidate, you will be referred to the selecting official for further consideration. (In some cases, individuals with priority for special consideration must be considered and selected before other candidates.) Whether or not you are contacted for an interview depends upon the location of the position and the judgment of the selecting official.

Important - If you make any change to your application, you must resubmit it. If you change your application and do not resubmit it, your changes will not be considered part of your application package, and your previous application will be considered.
 

MJ

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Is this considered temporary because if you fail the Academy you're out?
That's not unique to this bid. I think its the other way around, if you fail this you can be offered another position (not the advertised job, N90)
Additional information regarding these positions is located at: Aviation Careers
  • Positions offered may be:
    • AT-2152 AG - this is the position level for selectees who are NOT former FAA 2152 Certified Professional Controllers (CPC); salary $39,115 plus applicable locality pay based on facility assignment.
    • AT-2152 - xD/xF/xG - these are position levels for former FAA developmental controllers rehired within 1 year of separation; salary $47,928 to $109,389 plus applicable locality pay based on facility assignment.
    • Pay rates for FAA employees, including locality pay, are capped by law at $189,600 - the rate for the level II of the Executive Schedule (P.L. 104-264 paragraph 40122 c).
 

MJ

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Yes.
Side note: this is a prior experience bid also.

Edit: another interesting note; prior academy failures are not automatically excluded from selection.
 
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Dad

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Yes.
Side note: this is a prior experience bid also.

Edit: another interesting note; prior academy failures are not automatically excluded from selection.
Is it possible to receive a TOL for both bids or will they make you choose? I have 5 years Tower, should I even bother apply? Doesn’t look like you specifically need radar in the announcement.
 

MJ

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Is it possible to receive a TOL for both bids or will they make you choose? I have 5 years Tower, should I even bother apply? Doesn’t look like you specifically need radar in the announcement.
you don't need radar, only 52 weeks of post cert exp. Yes you can apply to both, but you will be forced to pick one or the other should you be selected on both.

I'll add, I think this bid is a virtual guarantee to get selected. They are aggressively pushing people to N90 right now.
 

Dad

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you don't need radar, only 52 weeks of post cert exp. Yes you can apply to both, but you will be forced to pick one or the other should you be selected on both.

I'll add, I think this bid is a virtual guarantee to get selected. They are aggressively pushing people to N90 right now.
If n90 is how I get in the FAA fastest then my ass is going to get rated one way or another.
 

DankVectorz

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And to clarify for those who do want to come here, it's not the facility I have issues with. It's Long Island. This is a terrible terrible place. But if you like NYC, or crowds, or 24 hour traffic, or paying double for the same thing, then you'll have no problems.
 

Remington

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And to clarify for those who do want to come here, it's not the facility I have issues with. It's Long Island. This is a terrible terrible place. But if you like NYC, or crowds, or 24 hour traffic, or paying double for the same thing, then you'll have no problems.

As terrible as it would be for me to commute, I would do it over ever actually living on LI
 

DankVectorz

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As terrible as it would be for me to commute, I would do it over ever actually living on LI

There's several people here who commute from NJ and CT. I don't know how they do it. 90+ min commute each way on top of a 10 hour day? Hell naw
 

DankVectorz

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Why don't you guys live on, like, Long Beach? that place looks kinda cool...

I lived in Long Beach my first year and a half. It was cool at first, great night life, but by the end I was so happy to get out of there. The winter there is devastatingly brutal from the wind, there's never parking anywhere near your apartment and a 6 block walk in 20 degree weather with average 35mph winds isn't fun, and in the summer you're lucky if you park within a 1/2 mile. A parking spot in my apartment complex was $150/mo with a 6 month waiting list. Plus my apartment was a 500 sq ft 2 bedroom for $2200/mo, and one thermostat controlled the whole building so in the winter it was 86 degrees inside. Ran my AC more in the winter than in the summer. But if you're single, summer nights in Long Beach is the place to go out.

I live in Huntington now just over the Suffolk County border. I love this town. It's the culinary capital of LI. Tons of great restaurants and bars, right near the Sound, easy commute most days unless you're stuck working a shift that matches with rush hour.
 

Cmsgthokage

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I just checked my usajobs account and I was Not Referred for my N90 application. That’s he quickest Not Referred I’ve ever seen. This happen to anyone else?

My buddy who also applied to both the N90 and the all locations bid was also Not Referred.
EDIT: I refreshed the page and it changed to Referred! Same for my buddy.
 
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Remington

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Someone on a stuckmic thread said that if you are hired specifically for n90 and go the tetra course that you will never be able to transfer out of n90 for your entire career. Is this true?
 

NEatc933

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Someone on a stuckmic thread said that if you are hired specifically for n90 and go the tetra course that you will never be able to transfer out of n90 for your entire career. Is this true?

Once/if they ever hit their staffing target then I'm sure you'll be able to transfer out, but it's going to be a long time before that happens.
 
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