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Facility Downgrades / Upgrades

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  1. Wizard #581

    CVG getting downgraded anytime soon? Only been like 3 years

  2. ajmezz #582

    Latest round of downgrades effective 10/9:

    D21 new level - 10
    ITO new level - 5
    MSP new level - 10
    STL new level - 7

  3. GulfCharlie #583
    ajmezz said:

    Latest round of downgrades effective 10/9:

    D21 new level - 10
    ITO new level - 5
    MSP new level - 10
    STL new level - 7

    RIP STL.

  4. Phanatical #584
    GulfCharlie said:

    RIP STL.

    STL should stay an 8 based on complexity IMO, but traffic count really screwed them over.

  5. PointSixty5stalker #585
    ajmezz said:

    Latest round of downgrades effective 10/9:

    D21 new level - 10
    ITO new level - 5
    MSP new level - 10
    STL new level - 7

    Maybe MSP wouldn’t have been downgraded if they didn’t request 15 miles in trail as soon as a/c takes off out of Florida. You can thank the slobs at ZMP TMU

  6. GulfCharlie #586
    redsphanatic said:

    STL should stay an 8 based on complexity IMO, but traffic count really screwed them over.

    I have to see the TCI, but I think it stands a chance to recover.

  7. CoffeeIV #587

    Anyone more knowledgeable about traffic count able to tell me if a facility can only count the traffic from the hours of 7am to 11pm? One of the supes said this and I've heard from a traffic management person at our facility that we don't count all traffic which sounds insane to me since it's quite a bit of traffic outside of those hours. I was under the impression everything was for the most part automated and 24hrs.

  8. Soul_Controller #588
    CoffeeIV said:

    Anyone more knowledgeable about traffic count able to tell me if a facility can only count the traffic from the hours of 7am to 11pm? One of the supes said this and I've heard from a traffic management person at our facility that we don't count all traffic which sounds insane to me since it's quite a bit of traffic outside of those hours. I was under the impression everything was for the most part automated and 24hrs.

    Your TCI is computed from your busiest X amount of hours (I forget the actual numbers) on a rolling 12 month average. If you have a ridiculously busy mid one night, then those hours will make the cut.

    They only count your busiest hours so seasonal and non-24 hour facilities don't get hosed.

  9. Acquired Taste #589
    CoffeeIV said:

    Anyone more knowledgeable about traffic count able to tell me if a facility can only count the traffic from the hours of 7am to 11pm? One of the supes said this and I've heard from a traffic management person at our facility that we don't count all traffic which sounds insane to me since it's quite a bit of traffic outside of those hours. I was under the impression everything was for the most part automated and 24hrs.

    It's all broken down in the slate book appendix but more or less it comes down the facilities busiest 1830 hours per year.

  10. Move78 #590

    Your busiest 3660 is what matters for your sustained multiplier. (Top 1830 and 2nd 1830). You busiest 1830 is what matters for all the weights in the formulas. 1830 just averages to 5 hours a day. 3660 averages to 10 hours a day. But it’s not per day it’s total for the year.

  11. Wizard #591

    It’s all a scam anyway

  12. Move78 #592
    boots said:

    It’s all a scam anyway

    This is true

  13. MJ #593

    PSC effective downgrade date?

  14. Dolan #594
    MJ said:

    PSC effective downgrade date?

    Will it be a 6 or a 5? taking bets

  15. ajmezz #595
    Dolan said:

    Will it be a 6 or a 5? taking bets

    4 or a 5 if they're lucky.

  16. Dolan #596
    ajmezz said:

    4 or a 5 if they're lucky.

    I think 5 then, too many airline flights to be a 4

  17. ajmezz #597
    Dolan said:

    I think 5 then, too many airline flights to be a 4

    Pretty sure DAY has more than them and is a 4 so we'll see!

  18. Acquired Taste #598

    The TCI cutoff for level 5 tower only is 46 and in October, their tower TCI was 45.69. It kind of bounces around between 45 and 47 so I'd expect the initial downgrade to be to a 5 and to keep the option available to downgrade further to a 4 in the future.

    No official effective date on the TCIP website yet MJ

  19. PolishMythology #599
    Acquired Taste said:

    The TCI cutoff for level 5 tower only is 46 and in October, their tower TCI was 45.69. It kind of bounces around between 45 and 47 so I'd expect the initial downgrade to be to a 5 and to keep the option available to downgrade further to a 4 in the future.

    No official effective date on the TCIP website yet MJ

    Is there a way to look up TCI info on the FAA network? Or do you have to calculate the TCI by hand?

  20. Acquired Taste #600
    PolishMythology said:

    Is there a way to look up TCI info on the FAA network? Or do you have to calculate the TCI by hand?

    Aap.faa.gov on a work pc. Scroll down on the bottom right and click TCIP.

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