CVG getting downgraded anytime soon? Only been like 3 years
Facility Downgrades / Upgrades
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#582 Latest round of downgrades effective 10/9:
D21 new level - 10
ITO new level - 5
MSP new level - 10
STL new level - 7 -
#583 ajmezz said:
Latest round of downgrades effective 10/9:
D21 new level - 10
ITO new level - 5
MSP new level - 10
STL new level - 7RIP STL.
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#584 GulfCharlie said:
RIP STL.
STL should stay an 8 based on complexity IMO, but traffic count really screwed them over.
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#585 ajmezz said:
Latest round of downgrades effective 10/9:
D21 new level - 10
ITO new level - 5
MSP new level - 10
STL new level - 7Maybe MSP wouldn’t have been downgraded if they didn’t request 15 miles in trail as soon as a/c takes off out of Florida. You can thank the slobs at ZMP TMU
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#586 redsphanatic said:
STL should stay an 8 based on complexity IMO, but traffic count really screwed them over.
I have to see the TCI, but I think it stands a chance to recover.
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#587 Anyone more knowledgeable about traffic count able to tell me if a facility can only count the traffic from the hours of 7am to 11pm? One of the supes said this and I've heard from a traffic management person at our facility that we don't count all traffic which sounds insane to me since it's quite a bit of traffic outside of those hours. I was under the impression everything was for the most part automated and 24hrs.
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#588 CoffeeIV said:
Anyone more knowledgeable about traffic count able to tell me if a facility can only count the traffic from the hours of 7am to 11pm? One of the supes said this and I've heard from a traffic management person at our facility that we don't count all traffic which sounds insane to me since it's quite a bit of traffic outside of those hours. I was under the impression everything was for the most part automated and 24hrs.
Your TCI is computed from your busiest X amount of hours (I forget the actual numbers) on a rolling 12 month average. If you have a ridiculously busy mid one night, then those hours will make the cut.
They only count your busiest hours so seasonal and non-24 hour facilities don't get hosed.
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#589 CoffeeIV said:
Anyone more knowledgeable about traffic count able to tell me if a facility can only count the traffic from the hours of 7am to 11pm? One of the supes said this and I've heard from a traffic management person at our facility that we don't count all traffic which sounds insane to me since it's quite a bit of traffic outside of those hours. I was under the impression everything was for the most part automated and 24hrs.
It's all broken down in the slate book appendix but more or less it comes down the facilities busiest 1830 hours per year.
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#590 Your busiest 3660 is what matters for your sustained multiplier. (Top 1830 and 2nd 1830). You busiest 1830 is what matters for all the weights in the formulas. 1830 just averages to 5 hours a day. 3660 averages to 10 hours a day. But it’s not per day it’s total for the year.
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#591 It’s all a scam anyway
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#592 boots said:
It’s all a scam anyway
This is true
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#593 PSC effective downgrade date?
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#594 MJ said:
PSC effective downgrade date?
Will it be a 6 or a 5? taking bets
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#595 Dolan said:
Will it be a 6 or a 5? taking bets
4 or a 5 if they're lucky.
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#596 ajmezz said:
4 or a 5 if they're lucky.
I think 5 then, too many airline flights to be a 4
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#597 Dolan said:
I think 5 then, too many airline flights to be a 4
Pretty sure DAY has more than them and is a 4 so we'll see!
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#598 The TCI cutoff for level 5 tower only is 46 and in October, their tower TCI was 45.69. It kind of bounces around between 45 and 47 so I'd expect the initial downgrade to be to a 5 and to keep the option available to downgrade further to a 4 in the future.
No official effective date on the TCIP website yet MJ
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#599 Acquired Taste said:
The TCI cutoff for level 5 tower only is 46 and in October, their tower TCI was 45.69. It kind of bounces around between 45 and 47 so I'd expect the initial downgrade to be to a 5 and to keep the option available to downgrade further to a 4 in the future.
No official effective date on the TCIP website yet MJ
Is there a way to look up TCI info on the FAA network? Or do you have to calculate the TCI by hand?
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#600 PolishMythology said:
Is there a way to look up TCI info on the FAA network? Or do you have to calculate the TCI by hand?
Aap.faa.gov on a work pc. Scroll down on the bottom right and click TCIP.