Facility requiring trainees to have vaccine or have training suspended?

[Huntin_GI]

Hey y’all,

At one of the Z’s and apparently will have my training suspended in the next few days unless I get the vaccine.

Any other facilities seeing this?
Yes I wear my mask and haven’t had any issues during training. Unless you count issues as being kicked outta the building for a year due to Covid but anyways.
Thoughts?

Sounds like this is an agreement between our Pres and MGMT.

 

[Billybob]

Hey y’all,

At one of the Z’s and apparently will have my training suspended in the next few days unless I get the vaccine.

Any other facilities seeing this?
Yes I wear my mask and haven’t had any issues during training. Unless you count issues as being kicked outta the building for a year due to Covid but anyways.
Thoughts?

Sounds like this is an agreement between our Pres and MGMT.

Before we came back in May (April?) it was mentioned that those currently on EA would not be allowed back in the building unless they had the vaccine or the gating criteria was met, this sounds along similar lines.

 

[Phillytroll69]

So...is it through the regional flight surgeon, or local mandate? Seems a bit discriminatory. What about cpc?

 

[tunwno]

If this were a government shutdown, everyone will go bat shit crazy to start getting paid again. The reality is, no one cares about training enough to keep it going. Little do they know, facilities will suffer in the long run.

 

[MJ]

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At one of the Z’s and apparently will have my training suspended in the next few days unless I get the vaccine.

Any other facilities seeing this?

Sounds like this is an agreement between our Pres and MGMT.

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[MMKAY2039]

They can’t mandate that you get the vaccine, plain and simple.

 

[32andBelow]

They can’t mandate that you get the vaccine, plain and simple.

Says who?

 

[Phanatical]

They can’t mandate that you get the vaccine, plain and simple.

Nurses and doctors are getting fired from their hospitals for not getting the vaccine. You better be able to show me in the contract where it says that.

 

[Shikaka]

It can be mandated.

 

[Mike Kilo]

Even if it cannot be mandated, they can require it to work in a federal building. Require it in restaurants and grocery stores. Require it to visit a hospital or urgent care etc. Good luck fighting that.

 

[MMKAY2039]

Says who?

Says me, nobody is going to force something into my body that I don’t consent to. The job be damned.

 

[32andBelow]

Says me, nobody is going to force something into my body that I don’t consent to. The job be damned.

So it can be mandated to work but you aren’t mandated to work as an atc. Both can be true.

 

[MMKAY2039]

Nurses and doctors are getting fired from their hospitals for not getting the vaccine. You better be able to show me in the contract where it says that.

You must be one of those that reads the .65 that way too huh? Well it doesn’t say I can’t do it. Show me where it says they can mandate it. There are A LOT of facilities that are 50/50 when it comes to the vaccine. If they stop training because a trainee refuses to get it then they will also stop a CPC from working for the same reason. They’ll change their tune real quick when controllers nationwide aren’t working because they refuse to be jabbed with a shot that has been shown to have multiple side effects as well as not knowing the long term effects from it.

 

[Phillytroll69]

You must be one of those that reads the .65 that way too huh? Well it doesn’t say I can’t do it. Show me where it says they can mandate it. There are A LOT of facilities that are 50/50 when it comes to the vaccine. If they stop training because a trainee refuses to get it then they will also stop a CPC from working for the same reason. They’ll change their tune real quick when controllers nationwide aren’t working because they refuse to be jabbed with a shot that has been shown to have multiple side effects as well as not knowing the long term effects from it.

Before we drift off topic-they do not have the right of law to mandate it now. I'm not sure what is in the attachment above.

Private employers can mandate it especially in right to work states. There is a contract to follow, and negotiations must take place, the postal workers union is against it-i think we should encourage but not mandate as well

 

[Phanatical]

Says me, nobody is going to force something into my body that I don’t consent to. The job be damned.

That sweet, sweet Executive Order is on the horizon... hope you have a nice backup planned.

 

[Spoony90]

Just wanna take a moment and say a vaccinated trainee popped positive and since I worked with him, my unvaccinated ass got 10 days of EA. God bless the system

 

[KAB]

Just wanna take a moment and say a vaccinated trainee popped positive and since I worked with him, my unvaccinated ass got 10 days of EA. God bless the system

10 as in business days? We got 2 weeks.

 

[Spoony90]

10 as in business days? We got 2 weeks.

Ten days total. I’m back to work on the 14th.

 

[Stevo62]

What’s so strange about

“The guy that popped positive was vaccinated. So yeah.... I’ll continue to pass. It obviously doesn’t work. And he’s not the first that I know that got COVId post vaccination”

im not gonna be putting something in my body that obviously doesn’t work. There’s a million other things deadlier than COVId... I’m not worried

You must be one of those that reads the .65 that way too huh? Well it doesn’t say I can’t do it. Show me where it says they can mandate it. There are A LOT of facilities that are 50/50 when it comes to the vaccine. If they stop training because a trainee refuses to get it then they will also stop a CPC from working for the same reason. They’ll change their tune real quick when controllers nationwide aren’t working because they refuse to be jabbed with a shot that has been shown to have multiple side effects as well as not knowing the long term effects from it.

Let me guess they can't fire all of us? seems like i heard that one before. and only 2 days after august 3rd

 

[KAB]

Ten days total. I’m back to work on the 14th.

For some reason, if you tested positive after a close contact event, you had 10 days total unless you continued to test positive and all that time is your own sick leave. If you instead test negative after the close contact, you get 14 EA days.