32andBelow said:Dems would be so dumb to agree to this. So they probably will
Well someone reminded them that we can opt to use sick or furlough idiots. Can we opt to use furlough if we are funded?
What's funny about this is that they said in 2017 privitization would be the only way to keep funding for the nas and here we are with another win from the Republicans, if they agree with tbe dems that introduced jt. Anyway wtf is happening in this twilight zone career....
Phillytroll69 said:Well someone reminded them that we can opt to use sick or furlough idiots. Can we opt to use furlough if we are funded?
What's funny about this is that they said in 2017 privitization would be the only way to keep funding for the nas and here we are with another win from the Republicans, if they agree with tbe dems that introduced jt. Anyway wtf is happening in this twilight zone career....
a republican dream would have things like ATC and border patrol funded and woke shit like the irs shut down.
32andBelow said:a republican dream would have things like ATC and border patrol funded and woke shit like the irs shut down.
TurboTax lobbyists have entered the chat
Phillytroll69 said:TurboTax lobbyists have entered the chat
Idk, I'm sure Pharma lobbyists have shit themselves recently. White House is not letting people know their next move on some Wile E. Coyote shit.
Phillytroll69 said:Well someone reminded them that we can opt to use sick or furlough idiots. Can we opt to use furlough if we are funded?
What's funny about this is that they said in 2017 privitization would be the only way to keep funding for the nas and here we are with another win from the Republicans, if they agree with tbe dems that introduced jt. Anyway wtf is happening in this twilight zone career....
That’s why this bill was introduced. It’s to prevent ATC from having any leverage to end the shut down.
By-in-large, ATC not functioning is the only thing people care about when the government shuts down. Besides, not paying ATC given the attention on the FAA, would make both sides look even more stupid.
+TSRA said:That’s why this bill was introduced. It’s to prevent ATC from having any leverage to end the shut down.
By-in-large, ATC not functioning is the only thing people care about when the government shuts down. Besides, not paying ATC given the attention on the FAA, would make both sides look even more stupid.
Bingo as soon as they cant get off long island lawmakers care
I am asking this as a concerned civilian and traveling member of the flying public. Lets say the government shut down happens. And lets say an Air Traffic Controller suddenly comes down with a symptom that makes the Air Traffic Controller unfit for duty. What is the proper way to request a sick day to be placed on furlough status?
I understand there was some guidance changes this month from OPM.
+TSRA said:I am asking this as a concerned civilian and traveling member of the flying public. Lets say the government shut down happens. And lets say an Air Traffic Controller suddenly comes down with a symptom that makes the Air Traffic Controller unfit for duty. What is the proper way to request a sick day to be placed on furlough status?
I understand there was some guidance changes this month from OPM.
Maybe just bang out and then hope the sup has a brain
+TSRA said:I am asking this as a concerned civilian and traveling member of the flying public. Lets say the government shut down happens. And lets say an Air Traffic Controller suddenly comes down with a symptom that makes the Air Traffic Controller unfit for duty. What is the proper way to request a sick day to be placed on furlough status?
I understand there was some guidance changes this month from OPM.
Start with emailing your supervisor, so there’s a paper trail, that you think you have a condition (or whatever it is but don’t give details, they don’t have the right to know that) that conflicts with medical standards and makes you unfit for duty. Ask for the RFS number so you can report what’s going on. If they press you for details be polite but firm that it’s private medical info and you only want to discuss with the RFS.
If they make you come in when you tell them you think you’re incapacitated, you are now free and clear of any consequence, the agency has assumed liability
It goes without saying, call AMAS first before you call the faa.
Good Time to go on fat shots
Hypothetically speaking of course, if you call and say “show me on sick” during a shutdown, are you going to be charged sick leave or does it automatically convert to furlough?
ClearanceClarence said:Hypothetically speaking of course, if you call and say “show me on sick” during a shutdown, are you going to be charged sick leave or does it automatically convert to furlough?
I believe it’s all furlough unless you ask to be charged the leave. I wouldn’t say show me on sick leave, say “I’m be out, I’m sick”
Bandit117 said:Start with emailing your supervisor, so there’s a paper trail, that you think you have a condition (or whatever it is but don’t give details, they don’t have the right to know that) that conflicts with medical standards and makes you unfit for duty. Ask for the RFS number so you can report what’s going on. If they press you for details be polite but firm that it’s private medical info and you only want to discuss with the RFS.
If they make you come in when you tell them you think you’re incapacitated, you are now free and clear of any consequence, the agency has assumed liability
It goes without saying, call AMAS first before you call the faa.
Is there a place where the RFS numbers are listed? I've never had to call for anything so I'm curious
Gauff said:Is there a place where the RFS numbers are listed? I've never had to call for anything so I'm curious
Bandit117 said:Start with emailing your supervisor, so there’s a paper trail, that you think you have a condition (or whatever it is but don’t give details, they don’t have the right to know that) that conflicts with medical standards and makes you unfit for duty. Ask for the RFS number so you can report what’s going on. If they press you for details be polite but firm that it’s private medical info and you only want to discuss with the RFS.
If they make you come in when you tell them you think you’re incapacitated, you are now free and clear of any consequence, the agency has assumed liability
It goes without saying, call AMAS first before you call the faa.
It's not that complicated. Just bang out and it will get changed to furlough because there's no leave of any kind during a shutdown. You either work or are on furlough. No in-between.
AlmostEligible said:It's not that complicated. Just bang out and it will get changed to furlough because there's no leave of any kind during a shutdown. You either work or are on furlough. No in-between.
That's not accurate.
The law changed.
You CAN be in pay status and use your leave IF the excepted employee elects to instead of using furlough.
GroundClutter said:That's not accurate.
The law changed.
You CAN be in pay status and use your leave IF the excepted employee elects to instead of using furlough.
That’s what I thought. Why would employee elect to stay in pay status & use leave?
GroundClutter said:That's not accurate.
The law changed.
You CAN be in pay status and use your leave IF the excepted employee elects to instead of using furlough.
So if I were to call in and say "show me on sick" is that me electing to use my leave instead of furlough? Seems like a gray area.
I think it'd probably be best to say "I'm sick, show me on furlough" just so there's no confusion.
Don’t play games with an admin that hates federal unions. This is a prime example of fuck around and find out
Gauff said:So if I were to call in and say "show me on sick" is that me electing to use my leave instead of furlough? Seems like a gray area.
I think it'd probably be best to say "I'm sick, show me on furlough" just so there's no confusion.
Tbh I THINK you should be asked.
I am not fit for duty.
The steps after that are-
Sick
Furlough
Other duties not available likely
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