Government Shutdown - March Edition

GroundClutter said:

That's not accurate.

The law changed.

You CAN be in pay status and use your leave IF the excepted employee elects to instead of using furlough.

I said what I said, assuming no one would be foolish enough to elect to burn leave.

Nothanks said:

Don’t play games with an admin that hates federal unions. This is a prime example of fuck around and find out

You can be punished up to termination for not reporting medication so what exactly are you saying we should do.

32andBelow said:

You can be punished up to termination for not reporting medication so what exactly are you saying we should do.

If you are taking meds you should report it.

Nothanks said:

If you are taking meds you should report it.

So what are you threatening people about.

AlmostEligible said:

I said what I said, assuming no one would be foolish enough to elect to burn leave.

Kay cool.

You said what you said and it's wrong. Not one part of it.

Used to be true but no longer.

Here's where I think they get you...

You call in and say: "I'm sick."

They say: "OK, sick leave approved."

You say: "No, I'll take furlough."

They say: "We don't have enough bodies for you to take "furlough". Show up or take sick leave."

Now if you have enough bodies...they won't care if you take annual or furlough leave.

+TSRA said:

Here's where I think they get you...

You call in and say: "I'm sick."

They say: "OK, sick leave approved."

You say: "No, I'll take furlough."

They say: "We don't have enough bodies for you to take "furlough". Show up or take sick leave."

Now if you have enough bodies...they won't care if you take annual or furlough leave.

That could be a way it's played at a lot of facilities too. But if you had to take Claritin or some allergy med, etc then your be on furlough status for sure.

Obviously people shouldn't game the system but just trying to get a grasp on everything and how this would affect us all

+TSRA said:

Here's where I think they get you...

You call in and say: "I'm sick."

They say: "OK, sick leave approved."

You say: "No, I'll take furlough."

They say: "We don't have enough bodies for you to take "furlough". Show up or take sick leave."

Now if you have enough bodies...they won't care if you take annual or furlough leave.

I think at a lot of places leave was just all changes to furlough by the payroll people or whatever. The same way they change
holiday leave to no leave

We need to keep our integrity here. Real personal integrity not NATCA “credibility”. Using illegal meds and not reporting it and using your cell phone on position and having an accident are two of the only things you can be immediately fired for. I know people do those things all the time but it’s not worth the risk.

FightingIrish2012 said:

We need to keep our integrity here. Real personal integrity not NATCA “credibility”. Using illegal meds and not reporting it and using your cell phone on position and having an accident are two of the only things you can be immediately fired for. I know people do those things all the time but it’s not worth the risk.

The combo of both is an instant choice of facility

FightingIrish2012 said:

We need to keep our integrity here. Real personal integrity not NATCA “credibility”. Using illegal meds and not reporting it and using your cell phone on position and having an accident are two of the only things you can be immediately fired for. I know people do those things all the time but it’s not worth the risk.

Fired possible yes. Immediately Fired. The words Immediately and Fired don't even go together in FAA ATC lol

I just heard that SAIC and associated contractors are funded through the end of October. Not only at the Academy, but also at the facilities. Lab training, classroom, refresher, etc still as usual. Anyone else hear something similar?

bomber996 said:

I just heard that SAIC and associated contractors are funded through the end of October. Not only at the Academy, but also at the facilities. Lab training, classroom, refresher, etc still as usual. Anyone else hear something similar?

Correct. And FAA is funded through Thursday, so any shutdown impact won't affect ATC until Friday.

Stinger said:

Correct. And FAA is funded through Thursday, so any shutdown impact won't affect ATC until Friday.

Have a source? This is the first I've heard of that.

penaltyvectors said:

Have a source? This is the first I've heard of that.

My facrep said the same thing FWIW. I don’t know who her source was

penaltyvectors said:

Have a source? This is the first I've heard of that.

ATM just told us the same.

Stinger said:

Correct. And FAA is funded through Thursday, so any shutdown impact won't affect ATC until Friday.

That’s fairly normal for some organizations to hang on for a couple days or more

penaltyvectors said:

Have a source? This is the first I've heard of that.

All of these people. Specifically, Chris Wilbanks said it.
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/leadership

I know a guy and he said some stuff

Love how these reps and managers keep this kind of crucial info until the last minute.