Government Shutdown - March Edition

So if ATC starts taking sick leave, the Republicans “win” & that’s not good for the woke Union & it’s BFF the Democrats?

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+TSRA said:

So if ATC starts taking sick leave, the Republicans “win” & that’s not good for the woke Union & it’s BFF the Democrats?

how does that make republicans win? They are being blamed for the shutdown already

32andBelow said:

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how does that make republicans win? They are being blamed for the shutdown already

I'm just saying that's the way media appears to be spinning this shutdown. That's why I put the question mark.

+TSRA said:

So if ATC starts taking sick leave, the Republicans “win” & that’s not good for the woke Union & it’s BFF the Democrats?

32andBelow said:

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how does that make republicans win? They are being blamed for the shutdown already

Fox News is calling this “The Schumer Shutdown” and saying it’s ridiculous to give healthcare to illegal immigrants. Every other major outlet is blaming republicans for cutting healthcare subsidies. I don’t give a shit whose fault it is. Both sides are going to use us as pawns to leverage their position. This is the only job I’ve ever worked where I have missed a paycheck. Fuck you, Pay me!

AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise said:

Fox News is calling this “The Schumer Shutdown” and saying it’s ridiculous to give healthcare to illegal immigrants. Every other major outlet is blaming republicans for cutting healthcare subsidies. I don’t give a shit whose fault it is. Both sides are going to use us as pawns to leverage their position. This is the only job I’ve ever worked where I have missed a paycheck. Fuck you, Pay me!

But we havent missed a check

Phillytroll69 said:

But we havent missed a check

Not this shutdown, but we have before. It was the uniparty's fault back then too.

Phillytroll69 said:

But we havent missed a check

Yet… And we all went unpaid for a month in 2019

AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise said:

Fox News is calling this “The Schumer Shutdown” and saying it’s ridiculous to give healthcare to illegal immigrants. Every other major outlet is blaming republicans for cutting healthcare subsidies. I don’t give a shit whose fault it is. Both sides are going to use us as pawns to leverage their position. This is the only job I’ve ever worked where I have missed a paycheck. Fuck you, Pay me!

We should support the ACA subsidies. It’s literally about benefits for people who’d either before they are eligible for Medicare. Couldn’t matter one day to a group that retires at 56.

32andBelow said:

We should support the ACA subsidies. It’s literally about benefits for people who’d either before they are eligible for Medicare. Couldn’t matter one day to a group that retires at 56.

I honestly don't care what they are negotiating or arguing over. They shouldn't leverage keeping the government shutdown to try and get something they want passed. The Republicans did that the last shutdown and the Democrats are doing it this shutdown.

Gauff said:

I honestly don't care what they are negotiating or arguing over. They shouldn't leverage keeping the government shutdown to try and get something they want passed. The Republicans did that the last shutdown and the Democrats are doing it this shutdown.

This, which seems to be an unpopular view for some reason. I can’t believe Democrats are holding federal workers’ paychecks hostage for healthcare subsidies.

Homsar said:

This, which seems to be an unpopular view for some reason. I can’t believe Democrats are holding federal workers’ paychecks hostage for healthcare subsidies.

Yah it’s the people without control of any part of governments fault.

32andBelow said:

Yah it’s the people without control of any part of governments fault.

Republicans have House, Senate & White House. One-party control of the entire federal government, but they can’t do something as simple as keep the government running? That’s a great message as we soon head into 2026, a midterm year.

DOD4Life said:

Republicans have House, Senate & White House. One-party control of the entire federal government, but they can’t do something as simple as keep the government running? That’s a great message as we soon head into 2026, a midterm year.

I would add that just prior to the 2013 shutdown Trump was asked:

"Who's getting fired, who's going to bear the brunt of the responsibility if indeed there is a shutdown of our government?"

He replied:
"It always has to be the top. I mean, problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top. And the president's the leader and he's got to get everybody in a room and he's got to lead. And he doesn't do that. He doesn't like doing that. That's not his strength."

But regardless of that, regardless of who controls all 3 today, half the country will take dear leaders side.

They never fail.

Homsar said:

This, which seems to be an unpopular view for some reason. I can’t believe Democrats are holding federal workers’ paychecks hostage for healthcare subsidies.

Tbf, one insurance co has already estimated that if the subsidies lapse what was costing a family of 4 $500 a month will now be over $2000 a month (and per already existing law does not cover illegal immigrants as the republicans claim). It is a cause worth taking a stand on, although the negative effects of the subsidies lapsing would be disproportionately felt in red states.

32andBelow said:

Yah it’s the people without control of any part of governments fault.

60 votes in the Senate is true control because of the filibuster, but I think they should just nuke it at this point. Democrat pundits were calling for it for years too, Republicans should just do it and get it over with.

DankVectorz said:

Tbf, one insurance co has already estimated that if the subsidies lapse what was costing a family of 4 $500 a month will now be over $2000 a month (and per already existing law does not cover illegal immigrants as the republicans claim). It is a cause worth taking a stand on, although the negative effects of the subsidies lapsing would be disproportionately felt in red states.

I disagree that my paycheck should be withheld to fight for an extension of temporary COVID-era subsidies and Medicare provisions for non-citizens granted temporary refugee status. If Democrats want those so much, they should propose bills with those provisions in them and include Republican pork, making a compromise bill. Keep that fight away from government funding, just like we all wanted when Republicans pushed shutdowns for wall funding.

Homsar said:

60 votes in the Senate is true control because of the filibuster, but I think they should just nuke it at this point. Democrat pundits were calling for it for years too, Republicans should just do it and get it over with.

I disagree that my paycheck should be withheld to fight for an extension of temporary COVID-era subsidies and Medicare provisions for non-citizens granted temporary refugee status. If Democrats want those so much, they should propose bills with those provisions in them and include Republican pork, making a compromise bill. Keep that fight away from government funding, just like we all wanted when Republicans pushed shutdowns for wall funding.

They could try like making a compromise to getting the votes they Seek. Or spend the last 10 months passing an actual funding bill.

32andBelow said:

They could try like making a compromise to getting the votes they Seek. Or spend the last 10 months passing an actual funding bill.

I agree fully there should be a compromise with the health care related asks, but that should have nothing to do with keeping the government open, that should be a clean bill every time, just like the Republicans passed in the house this time. Same thing applies when Republicans wanted to shut down the government for wall funding. Our paychecks shouldn't be used as pawns for desires of either political party, and I'm amazed I have coworkers in this job who disagree with me about that.

Homsar said:

I agree fully there should be a compromise with the health care related asks, but that should have nothing to do with keeping the government open, that should be a clean bill every time, just like the Republicans passed in the house this time. Same thing applies when Republicans wanted to shut down the government for wall funding. Our paychecks shouldn't be used as pawns for desires of either political party, and I'm amazed I have coworkers in this job who disagree with me about that.

We should stop these stupid CRs. If they give a 7 week CR they wouldn’t do anything till the last second again. There should a law that gets rid of government shutdowns and gives every agency an automatic INCREASE of funds if no budget is passed

Heard BUR went ATC 0. SOCAL working hard to keep things moving.

32andBelow said:

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how does that make republicans win? They are being blamed for the shutdown already

Do you really believe any of the crap you post? Who in their right mind actually is on the Democrats side? WHO? They are shutting down the Government (or for you, opting not to vote to keep it open) because they don't want the subsidies for Obamacare to expire in three months? Did I get that correct? Obamacare=The AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. If the Democrats wonderful policy is so affordable then why do we need to subsidize it? Help me understand you genious?