Phillytroll69 said:So you're telling me this won't be the biggest, longest, best hugest? As long as we own the libs
Haha fair enough. Good point.
Government Shutdown - March Edition
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#342 32andBelow said:
They’re just gonna rig some woke shit they are already gonna rid anyways. I think they’ll nuke NATCA if too many people bang out.
Bingo.
NATCA has been heavily reiterating: “NATCA does not endorse, support, or condone any federal employees participating in or endorsing a coordinated activity that negatively affects the capacity of the NAS, or any other activities that undermine the professional image and reputation of the people we represent.” because of the implications that await within Project 2025 to our union. Privatization is on the horizon, so long as the first pillar of Project 2025 nears its halfway point.
Keep in mind that there are 4 pillars and we are only experiencing the first.
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#343 Super Salt said:
Bingo.
NATCA has been heavily reiterating: “NATCA does not endorse, support, or condone any federal employees participating in or endorsing a coordinated activity that negatively affects the capacity of the NAS, or any other activities that undermine the professional image and reputation of the people we represent.” because of the implications that await within Project 2025 to our union. Privatization is on the horizon, so long as the first pillar of Project 2025 nears its halfway point.
Keep in mind that there are 4 pillars and we are only experiencing the first.
High NATCA is trying to position themselves to lead the new company.
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#344 32andBelow said:
High NATCA is trying to position themselves to lead the new company.
Or kissing ass to keep their heads above water.
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#345 32andBelow said:
They’re just gonna rig some woke shit they are already gonna rid anyways. I think they’ll nuke NATCA if too many people bang out.
Or they could let it go and use the shutdown in aviation as leverage over the Dems to sign their bill. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out with us
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#346 Gauff said:
Or they could let it go and use the shutdown in aviation as leverage over the Dems to sign their bill. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out with us
Everyone’s already blaming the reps.
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#347 I can't find my earlier post but someone was saying they can't fire people. Trump literally said they want to hurt people and affect them (by firing)
It is important to read fox news since the mainstream media paints these comments like they are a bad thing. All hail the glorious leaders. Add 100 to social credit score.
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#348 AlmostEligible said:
During a rif, employees get 60 days of advance written notice. And the right to appeal to MSPB to challenge improper procedures. I highly doubt the shutdown will last 30 days, let alone 60 days
Appeal to the MSPB that is currently powerless & backlogged? What does that accomplish? Remember, justice delayed is justice denied.
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#349 Anyone who says "they can't do..."
What they mean is "they can't legally do..."
This administration's defining feature is they do blatantly illegal things and wait for those illegal acts to be challenged. And we are running out of people in the legislative branch who will challenge the executive. Good luck to all federal employees right now.
So when someone says: "they can't RIF us", what they mean is: "they can't legally RIF us". In this climate that means you're probably about to get illegally RIFed and have to try to sue for damages with a very far right wing supreme court deciding what is legal.
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#350 32andBelow said:
High NATCA is trying to position themselves to lead the new company.
Can you try to not say stupid shit on here for just a couple of days?
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#351 Look at Duffy’s most recent tweet. Mentioned how many ATC families are living paycheck to paycheck. NATCA really needs to take advantage of this.
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#352 ManBearPig said:
Can you try to not say stupid shit on here for just a couple of days?
They already did this before. It's far from stupid. The stupid thing is to think they wouldn't again.
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#353 MeepMeep said:
Look at Duffy’s most recent tweet. Mentioned how many ATC families are living paycheck to paycheck. NATCA really needs to take advantage of this.
You think Duffy came up with that on his own? You don't think NATCA has been in his ear already?
Phillytroll69 said:
They already did this before. It's far from stupid. The stupid thing is to think they wouldn't again.
Who is they?
Explain how having the Union being decertified and disbanded is some brilliant power play to run a privatized corporation.
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#354 ManBearPig said:
Who is they?
Explain how having the Union being decertified and disbanded is some brilliant power play to run a privatized corporation.
The union uppers support this to retain power and be in charge. Like most union favorites, anything to not plug in for the day.
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#355 Somenewguy said:
This administration's defining feature is they do blatantly illegal things and wait for those illegal acts to be challenged.
And thanks to SCOTUS, a court ordered injunction now only applies to those involved in the case. Example, say they fire a bunch of Park Rangers. It’s challenged in court. Court issues an injunction saying no more firings til we rule one way or the other. That used to apply to everyone. Now it just means they can’t fire more park rangers, but they can fire controllers until controllers file suit and get their own injunction. Etc etc.
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#356 Removing the union isn't in the FAAs favor. It's used as a tool to show the FAA has the support of the labor.
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#357 ManBearPig said:
Who is they?
Explain how having the Union being decertified and disbanded is some brilliant power play to run a privatized corporation.
I never said they wanted to be disbanded. I said they are trying to have high up jobs for when ATC is privatized.
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#358 32andBelow said:
I never said they wanted to be disbanded. I said they are trying to have high up jobs for when ATC is privatized.
We know for sure that is Rinaldi's plan and was when he was NATCA president. Personally I think Nick is too dumb to pull it off like Paul but I bet he wants that same path that Paul laid out
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#359 Somenewguy said:
Anyone who says "they can't do..."
What they mean is "they can't legally do..."
This administration's defining feature is they do blatantly illegal things and wait for those illegal acts to be challenged. And we are running out of people in the legislative branch who will challenge the executive. Good luck to all federal employees right now.
So when someone says: "they can't RIF us", what they mean is: "they can't legally RIF us". In this climate that means you're probably about to get illegally RIFed and have to try to sue for damages with a very far right wing supreme court deciding what is legal.
Ok so they will illegally rif people who will eventually get re-hired with back pay. Some agencies hired back people a few months ago that got fired at the beginning of the year due to court rulings and MSPB bringing them back. Not saying it wouldn't be a crap situation for those individuals to deal with though.
DOD4Life said:
Appeal to the MSPB that is currently powerless & backlogged? What does that accomplish? Remember, justice delayed is justice denied.
True, it will definitely be delayed.
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#360 Gauff said:
We know for sure that is Rinaldi's plan and was when he was NATCA president. Personally I think Nick is too dumb to pull it off like Paul but I bet he wants that same path that Paul laid out
I think Paul is still trying to do it. He’ll be the leader but he’ll need minions.