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FlightDada said:
…AFGE out here going on the MSNBC clarifying/defending DEI…
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“(DEI) helps build a federal government that looks like the diverse population it serves.”
-AFGE

Tell me… why don’t people who support DEI push for it in professional sports? Shouldn’t NFL, NBA, NHL etc teams ‘look like the diverse population it represents?’

Or college sports? Shouldn’t college teams look like the diverse student body they represent?
 
PooseMaGoose said:
“(DEI) helps build a federal government that looks like the diverse population it serves.”
-AFGE

Tell me… why don’t people who support DEI push for it in professional sports? Shouldn’t NFL, NBA, NHL etc teams ‘look like the diverse population it represents?’

Or college sports? Shouldn’t college teams look like the diverse student body they represent?
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Shhh

Don't say that part
 
PooseMaGoose said:
“(DEI) helps build a federal government that looks like the diverse population it serves.”
-AFGE

Tell me… why don’t people who support DEI push for it in professional sports? Shouldn’t NFL, NBA, NHL etc teams ‘look like the diverse population it represents?’

Or college sports? Shouldn’t college teams look like the diverse student body they represent?
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It’s funny you bring up college cus DEI is the only way white people are getting into the top schools anymore
 
Termine said:
Glad you agree that we should cancel all veteran's preference hiring effective immediately!
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I don’t. Veterans preference is statutorily enshrined. Veterans preference is based upon supporting all different kinds of people who have one thing in common: service to our country and a baseline level of sacrifice (some more than others).

In a practical sense, skills and mentality learned in the military can benefit a workforce and vet pref aims to assist in the difficult transition from military life to civilian life.

A veteran’s identity is based on action…Based on an accomplishment. DEI is based on arbitrary demographic and identity categories in which people simply ARE. People don’t choose their race. People don’t choose their sex or orientation. People don’t choose their disabilities. People DO choose to serve in the military.

People should have a sense of pride for service. To have a sense of pride for something you haven’t achieved (skin color, sex, etc) is just asinine and frankly narcissistic.
 
PooseMaGoose said:
To have a sense of pride for something you haven’t achieved (skin color, sex, etc) is just asinine and frankly narcissistic.
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It's those on the conservative side of the line that are ok shaming/demeaning people for something out of their hands (skin color, sex, sexual orientation, etc), so to say that when those people push back on that shaming with pride... that that's narcissistic... that's pretty fucked up.

Anyway, if the FAA actually wanted to hire on merit to get the true creme of the crop from our country, they'd need to fire every one of us OTS hires and increase pay 3-fold to attract the talent.
... but they don't. They already long ago settled for "good enough".
 
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ATCJoe85 said:
It's those on the conservative side of the line that are ok ***not giving special treatment to people*** for something out of their hands (skin color, sex, sexual orientation, etc), so to say that when those people push back on that shaming with pride... that that's narcissistic... that's pretty fucked up.

Go figure you think that way.
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Fixed it for ya.
 
ATCJoe85 said:
It's those on the conservative side of the line that are ok shaming/demeaning people for something out of their hands (skin color, sex, sexual orientation, etc), so to say that when those people push back on that shaming with pride... that that's narcissistic... that's pretty fucked up.

Go figure you think that way.
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Shaming is wrong. Saying it shouldn't matter one way or another is what MLK Jr advocated for.
 
PooseMaGoose said:
I don’t. Veterans preference is statutorily enshrined. Veterans preference is based upon supporting all different kinds of people who have one thing in common: service to our country and a baseline level of sacrifice (some more than others).

In a practical sense, skills and mentality learned in the military can benefit a workforce and vet pref aims to assist in the difficult transition from military life to civilian life.

A veteran’s identity is based on action…Based on an accomplishment. DEI is based on arbitrary demographic and identity categories in which people simply ARE. People don’t choose their race. People don’t choose their sex or orientation. People don’t choose their disabilities. People DO choose to serve in the military.

People should have a sense of pride for service. To have a sense of pride for something you haven’t achieved (skin color, sex, etc) is just asinine and frankly narcissistic.
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In my experience joining the military doesn’t gaurentee that sense of pride or any skills what so ever. There are just as many shit heels from that group of people as the general population.
 
Ad1234 said:
In my experience joining the military doesn’t gaurentee that sense of pride or any skills what so ever. There are just as many shit heels from that group of people as the general population.
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Agreed. There are no guarantees in life. It’s still based on the action of serving though, and for the most part, the choice to do so.
 
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PooseMaGoose said:
I don’t. Veterans preference is statutorily enshrined. Veterans preference is based upon supporting all different kinds of people who have one thing in common: service to our country and a baseline level of sacrifice (some more than others).

In a practical sense, skills and mentality learned in the military can benefit a workforce and vet pref aims to assist in the difficult transition from military life to civilian life.

A veteran’s identity is based on action…Based on an accomplishment. DEI is based on arbitrary demographic and identity categories in which people simply ARE. People don’t choose their race. People don’t choose their sex or orientation. People don’t choose their disabilities. People DO choose to serve in the military.

People should have a sense of pride for service. To have a sense of pride for something you haven’t achieved (skin color, sex, etc) is just asinine and frankly narcissistic.
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you don’t think there’s laws about diversity?
 
32andBelow said:
you don’t think there’s laws about diversity?
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No.

There are laws that prohibit employment discrimination in the basis of race sex disability national origin, etc. These are good laws. They exist using concept of equal treatment under the law.

Then there are policies that try to manufacture results, quotas, and “justice” on the basis of controlled outcomes, operating on the notion that peoples’ group identity can be assigned to either the ‘oppressed’ or the ‘oppressor.’ These are bad policies. They divide people and undermine the very concept of equality under the law.

I advocate for equal treatment of people from the onset.

You are one of the retards who advocates for unequal treatment of people to achieve your vision of equal outcomes, regardless of the existence of any discrimination.
 

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