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“(DEI) helps build a federal government that looks like the diverse population it serves.”
-AFGE

Tell me… why don’t people who support DEI push for it in professional sports? Shouldn’t NFL, NBA, NHL etc teams ‘look like the diverse population it represents?’

Or college sports? Shouldn’t college teams look like the diverse student body they represent?
We do. The NFL is just a decade into considering the idea that black QBs are anything other than a novelty. Still fucking up on the coaching front.
 
We do. The NFL is just a decade into considering the idea that black QBs are anything other than a novelty. Still fucking up on the coaching front.

Still doesn’t address the fact that teams don’t LoOk LiKe tHe cOmMuNiTiEs ThEy rEpResEnt. I look forward to seeing people protest until their favorite team has the “correct” makeup of skin colors and genders…. Until then, it’s pathetic hypocrisy.
 
The NFL literally has the rooney rule

Which in no way alters the team’s makeup as a whole to look like the community. Furthermore, the rule only requires that somebody is simply interviewed. Know why? Because even virtue signalers know that forcing an organization to select people on anything other than merit is only going to hurt the outcome…

Even kids choosing dodgeball teams on the playground know this simple truth…
 
Racism ended with MLK why are people so uppity about what ended 60 years ago it's not like any of that stuff has repercussions lasting into today
This is the core of why I'm in support of DEI. Oppression- previously sponsored by and/or ignored by our government- in our recent history has served as an effective "disability" preventing many people from reaching their full potential.

Thus, I don't view the consideration of diversity as preferential treatment, rather I see it as rectifying discriminatory treatment to create equal treatment.

It gets tricky, because I don't believe in comprimising safety for the sake of diversity. But I do think we can accomplish both.

The workforce was diverse when I got in 15+ years ago, it continues to be diverse today. We have proven we can be safe and diverse. (And the new trend of publicizing every error... a trend that wasn't around even 5-10 years ago... doesn't prove otherwise)

As long as Trump's EOs don't turn us into what we looked like in the 50's, I'm not going to freak out about it.

But I do think a lot of Trumplicans want a workforce strictly composed of straight white males.
 
Racism ended with MLK why are people so uppity about what ended 60 years ago it's not like any of that stuff has repercussions lasting into today
This is what the wingnuts mean when they say they want to eliminate DEI. The felon’s EO just tried to erase the Tuskegee Airmen from our nation’s history. USAF no longer allowed to instruct new recruits on the Tuskegee Airmen.
 
“(DEI) helps build a federal government that looks like the diverse population it serves.”
-AFGE

Tell me… why don’t people who support DEI push for it in professional sports? Shouldn’t NFL, NBA, NHL etc teams ‘look like the diverse population it represents?’

Or college sports? Shouldn’t college teams look like the diverse student body they represent?
Man, one mention of “DEI” in this forum and the entire NAS gets offended and riled up lol

My point is what is NATCA recently doing in the response to the upcoming changes?
Other Unions are pushing back.
 
Man, one mention of “DEI” in this forum and the entire NAS gets offended and riled up lol

My point is what is NATCA recently doing in the response to the upcoming changes?
Other Unions are pushing back.

The only ones getting truly offended are the people whose core identity revolves around the amount of melanin in their skin.

With all sincerity, what is there to really push back against? The biggest thing that’s pissing the federal workforce off is the return to office EO and that in no way affects the controllers natca represents.
 
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Man, one mention of “DEI” in this forum and the entire NAS gets offended and riled up lol

My point is what is NATCA recently doing in the response to the upcoming changes?
Other Unions are pushing back.

I guess we're ignoring the extension when it's convenient now.

Per regional leadership telework agreements remain. Hiring continues. ERR dates remain the same. What's the issue?
 
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The only ones getting truly offended are the people whose core identity revolves around the amount of melanin in their skin.

With all sincerity, what is there to really push back against? The biggest thing that’s pissing the federal workforce off is the return to office EO and that in no way affects the controllers natca represents.
….yet all I hear is you whining about about DEI. I’m not the one defending it, I merely mentioned how AFGE addressed it. You sir, appeared to be triggered by the inkling mention of “DEI”. You played yourself.
 
….yet all I hear is you whining about about DEI. I’m not the one defending it, I merely mentioned how AFGE addressed it. You sir, appeared to be triggered by the inkling mention of “DEI”. You played yourself.

What have I got to whine about? That bullshit is being dismantled by the second. I’m as happy as a pig in shit right now.

I’m about to throw a death to DEI party next weekend. No quotas for the guest list. Gonna be a great time.
 
Should've asked yourself that before you did it.

HFS.
LOL you guys are hilarious. I’m sorry all of your feelings get hurt when somebody disagrees with your retarded ideology.

If you don’t want pushback, either don’t engage the topic up on a public forum, or choose to support a better viewpoint that isn’t so stupid.
 
I think the idea in theory, of DEI may be good? I’m not really sure tbh. If it is just supposed to eliminate discrimination that would be a good thing.

But like, in practice, from what I’ve seen I think it makes the system worse and more unsafe…
 
I know im about to take hits from both sides, BUT im a old retired get off my lawn guy,
in 1979 when i started ATC, There were very few women and minorities in the FAA. Every white male wore a white shirt and black pants with a skinny tie to work, You did not get promoted unless you played golf or was your Managers / Supervisors buddy. You would not be promoted or get to go to another Facility unless you sucked up to the folks above you, pay to play. So we needed some sort of DEI, Well we got diversity and some say even more. Maybe lack of talent. have we swung too far, maybe, but the pendulum of change always over swings, We will come to point I believe, not soon, but we will get there, where we have a balance of both, We wont disqualify or qualify based on your gender or race but finally pick a candidate based on true merit. We have a long way to go, when we cant even have this discussion without sharp verbal barbs come from people online that you would never say to someone's face. If you truly have issues with the world around you, state the change you would like to see in a calm rational well formulated plan or idea. you are part of the problem if you just spew hate and key word scoring points and walk away thinking I won that round.
 
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