It's Over (Finally)

[32andBelow]

This comment isn't directed at you. It's for educational purposes for all. An alternative pay plan that is not funded by Congress is robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Having been a member here seemingly forever, it's not surprising how few of you have a clue about the differences with authorization and appropriation and their connection to the intricacies of Congressionally-approved pay raises and President-selected alternative pay plans.

Let there be no mistake... throwing all feds a bone (as it relates to pay) on the way out the door would be a terrible idea. What do I mean? Let me use last FY as an example. Biden authorized an alternative pay plan of 4.7% plus 0.5% for locality in August 2023 to begin in January 2024. What happened? We did get that money; however, Congress did not appropriate funds to cover this amount, which left it on the Agencies to fund out of other budget lines. For the FAA, replacement of equipment reaching obsolescence (at or near the end of its lifecycle) was delayed or cancelled, purchase of spare parts was delayed or not purchased, repairs of non-critical systems were delayed or cancelled, facility maintenance was pushed-back until it could not be pushed-back any further, and on and on and on.

You’re ignoring the fact that there’s already a law passed by congress that tied fed wages to inflation. If Biden did nothing at all we’d all get 20+% raises

 

[Termine]

You’re ignoring the fact that there’s already a law passed by congress that tied fed wages to inflation. If Biden did nothing at all we’d all get 20+% raises

No he isn't ignoring that. You're the one missing the point.

There is a difference between authorization and appropriation. If Biden did nothing and the "automatic raise" law went into effect we would get 20% raises, yes. But we would also need Congress to appropriate 20% more funds to be spend on salaries. If they don't, which they won't, then the FAA's budget won't increase at all... and they'll still have to spend 20% more on salaries. So all of the money going to the larger salaries won't be going to things like "making sure the backup radios are replaced when they stop working."

If you're cool with that, fine, that's certainly an opinion you can have. But you should be cognizant of what it would mean for the operation.

 

[32andBelow]

No he isn't ignoring that. You're the one missing the point.

There is a difference between authorization and appropriation. If Biden did nothing and the "automatic raise" law went into effect we would get 20% raises, yes. But we would also need Congress to appropriate 20% more funds to be spend on salaries. If they don't, which they won't, then the FAA's budget won't increase at all... and they'll still have to spend 20% more on salaries. So all of the money going to the larger salaries won't be going to things like "making sure the backup radios are replaced when they stop working."

If you're cool with that, fine, that's certainly an opinion you can have. But you should be cognizant of what it would mean for the operation.

We are just as important as the backup radios. They will never appropriate more money without a reason too. We could just make it work forever with our current salaries. When would it ever end?

 

[Spoony90]

Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is gonna be running 3 Honda Civic's with spoon engines. On top of that he just came into Harry's and ordered 3 t66 turbo's with NOS's and a Motec System Exhaust.

 

[Raise when?]

We are just as important as the backup radios. They will never appropriate more money without a reason too. We could just make it work forever with our current salaries. When would it ever end?

nooooooo we just need to sacrifice our QOL and career for the operation forever like good little lackeys while sending hundreds of billions to other countries and endless wars

 

[CaptainObvious]

Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is gonna be running 3 Honda Civic's with spoon engines. On top of that he just came into Harry's and ordered 3 t66 turbo's with NOS's and a Motec System Exhaust.

Bet that would fetch a premium a week before race wars

 

[GulfCharlie]

When people stop taking pride in “making it work with less” then meaningful discussions will be had by D.C. about our salary.

 

[Phillyman2633]

When people stop taking pride in “making it work with less”

* Peter Gibbons wife has entered the chat*

 

[Peter Gibbons]

* Peter Gibbons wife has entered the chat*

Who has awoken me from my slumber?

I mean it's true. I'm hung like a contract tower. It's not super tall, but I can work for a long time with no breaks and when it's really pumping and banging I'm every bit as good as those tall ones. At least that's what the Airfield operator keeps telling me.