icecreambaby said:Was just notified by Hope that I cleared Tier 2 with her office and any further coordination to be done with Medical Program Analyst. What mean?
It means you cleared Tier 2. You'll have to do another drug test
MMPI-2 Tier 2 Process
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#1522 stonemalone99 said:
It means you cleared Tier 2. You'll have to do another drug test
just did my drug refresh today, have my refresh medical exam scheduled for friday.
hoping this is the end of the line for me and i get my FOL soon.
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#1523 stonemalone99 said:
Wouldn't get your hopes up too quick. People that fully cleared in October are still waiting
We're just hoping the next one is not a TOL. No matter when if comes.
BPM31694 said:
just did my drug refresh today, have my refresh medical exam scheduled for friday.
hoping this is the end of the line for me and i get my FOL soon.
How long is our Med Exam good for?
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#1524 WaywardSon said:
How long is our Med Exam good for?
2 years.
i'm from the 2017 OTS bid lol.
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#1525 stonemalone99 said:
It means you cleared Tier 2. You'll have to do another drug test
Funny enough i already did my drug refresh. What do now
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#1526 icecreambaby said:
Funny enough i already did my drug refresh. What do now
At that point I think you just wait for your whole medical to clear and you'll hear from HR. I'm still waiting on my medical to clear since I did my drug refresher on Friday. So I'm basically in the same position as you
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#1527 stonemalone99 said:
At that point I think you just wait for your whole medical to clear and you'll hear from HR. I'm still waiting on my medical to clear since I did my drug refresher on Friday. So I'm basically in the same position as you
Does the VHT team reach out to me at all? SM, RC etc?
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#1528 BPM31694 said:
2 years.
i'm from the 2017 OTS bid lol.
I'm so sorry lol I feel for you and rooting for you!
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#1529 icecreambaby said:
Does the VHT team reach out to me at all? SM, RC etc?
for me, it was HW saying I cleared Tier 2, then RDC saying I had to do a drug refresh, did that and just waiting now
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#1530 I was flagged for answering too perfect too he said and I have my appointment next week. I’m nervous because this is the only job I want and been waiting for a long time. I have to retake MMPI, his test and a general discussion. I’m praying it’s easy and I get the green light
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#1531 Congratulations to everyone who's moving along.
I think I've reached a point where I'm done with this process. January 2021 I was notified I was going to be put into Tier 2, and February 2021 I had my medical appointment. The doctor said I had an enlarged liver, so I've spent the last year (thankfully I have good insurance, but dozen of doctors appointment copays and travel does cost money) doing every test possible to prove that I don't, and every time I submit something I get an e-mail back asking for something else. I really feel like they're just playing games at this point, because they're bouncing all over the place with what they keep requesting.
I just hope this doesn't effect me in the future when I go to get my medical for a PPL.
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#1532 Horrible news. I was just officially DQ’d due to “maladaptive personality traits” along with my MMPI results and other findings during their investigation. I will have the chance to appeal but results aren’t guaranteed. RIP my FAA dreams
Feeling super down, if anyone has any advice on appeals please share. I was told I will have the chance to get a HIMS pysch to take a look at me and resubmit my package to DC. I’ve been a controller for 9 years in the military and private contractor now. Not sure where to go from here
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#1533 icecreambaby said:
Feeling super down, if anyone has any advice on appeals please share. I was told I will have the chance to get a HIMS pysch to take a look at me and resubmit my package to DC. I’ve been a controller for 9 years in the military and private contractor now. Not sure where to go from here.
Damn dude I’m really sorry to hear that.
So you did not clear the tier 2 at all?
I think you have a good shot at an appeal because it’s “personality” based.
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#1534 icecreambaby said:
Feeling super down, if anyone has any advice on appeals please share. I was told I will have the chance to get a HIMS pysch to take a look at me and resubmit my package to DC. I’ve been a controller for 9 years in the military and private contractor now. Not sure where to go from here
DoD is still an option and in a lot of ways, a better one. Right now there are 19 openings on USAJOBS. Gs11-12 is the way to go. I hope this helps.
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#1535 BPM31694 said:
Damn dude I’m really sorry to hear that.
So you did not clear the tier 2 at all?
I think you have a good shot at an appeal because it’s “personality” based.
Happens man. I guess the pysch team in Washington DC decided my MMPI answers along with some past events makes me "mentally unfit" to do the job. I'm definitely going to appeal, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Just wanted to pass along to people here that the Tier 2 system is not a guaranteed pass even if you're a current controller.
After_Victor said:
DoD is still an option and in a lot of ways, a better one. Right now there are 19 openings on USAJOBS. Gs11-12 is the way to go. I hope this helps.
Yeah, I'm looking into DoD heavily at this point. After sleeping on it, the main benefit the FAA provides is the pension. I make 90-100k working at an FCT and the schedule and traffic is cake. I'd take a small pay cut at first for DoD but the benefits are probably worth it long term.
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#1536 icecreambaby said:
Happens man. I guess the pysch team in Washington DC decided my MMPI answers along with some past events makes me "mentally unfit" to do the job. I'm definitely going to appeal, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Just wanted to pass along to people here that the Tier 2 system is not a guaranteed pass even if you're a current controller.
just makes no sense to get cleared for the psychological portion of the medical clearance i.e. Tier 2 then get disqualified for a "personality" disorder....wtf was the point of the 6 hour psych appt then?
and looking back at your posts....it seems like you cleared tier 2 and 48 hours later you were disqualified??
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#1537 BPM31694 said:
just makes no sense to get cleared for the psychological portion of the medical clearance i.e. Tier 2 then get disqualified for a "personality" disorder....wtf was the point of the 6 hour psych appt then?
and looking back at your posts....it seems like you cleared tier 2 and 48 hours later you were disqualified??
I wasn't "cleared". My package had been pushed up and down the chain and I was being notified along the way. My posts and verbiage had the silly assumption that I would be green lighted once it reached the necessary people. I was called by phone yesterday by the one of the head doctors and he personally notified my the Tier 2 team had decided I failed the screening process. He explained the reasons why and also the appeals process.
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#1538 icecreambaby said:
I wasn't "cleared". My package had been pushed up and down the chain and I was being notified along the way. My posts and verbiage had the silly assumption that I would be green lighted once it reached the necessary people. I was called by phone yesterday by the one of the head doctors and he personally notified my the Tier 2 team had decided I failed the screening process. He explained the reasons why and also the appeals process.
that absolutely sucks man.
look through previous threads on pointsixtyfive and even stuckmic for appeal related stuff. i know i have seen info on specific attorneys to use and what your next steps should be.
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#1539 icecreambaby said:
I wasn't "cleared". My package had been pushed up and down the chain and I was being notified along the way. My posts and verbiage had the silly assumption that I would be green lighted once it reached the necessary people. I was called by phone yesterday by the one of the head doctors and he personally notified my the Tier 2 team had decided I failed the screening process. He explained the reasons why and also the appeals process.
I'm sorry to hear that for you man!
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#1540 icecreambaby said:
Horrible news. I was just officially DQ’d due to “maladaptive personality traits” along with my MMPI results and other findings during their investigation. I will have the chance to appeal but results aren’t guaranteed. RIP my FAA dreams
I was DQ’d with that exact same reason. I got it overturned.