NDJH - TRUTH: Slate Book Discussion I Team Daniels-Haltom

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[LennyA21]

Here’s the truth, the FAA won’t mutually agree to open if Biden wins so this is an extension until 2029.

Here’s the truth, every leader ARVP when and up when paul and Trish were in said we needed to extend the contract because incumbents usually win and the EOs would kill us. Now Nick is motioning to extend even though the incumbent is a democrat.

Here’s the truth, we do not know what waits us in 2029. There will be a republican who could win though. Right now we have a democrat incumbent which gives us the best chance now, with what is known, to renegotiate a contract that we can proudly extend in 2029 instead of limping to an extension with our tails between our legs.

There will always be a democrat and a republican, every election. This is our best chance, that’s what’s known Yachty.

 

[ClearanceClarence]

These morons need to not only withdraw from the election, they should resign their current positions in NATCA. They put out videos and content saying they want to change things, but then support contract extension behind memberships’ back. There’s not one average controller I know that supports this shit. Fuck these guys.

 

[GulfCharlie]

Pretty sure the "anonymous forum" he mentioned is the r/atc2 subreddit. Far as I can tell they are not run by any campaign, so... *shrugs* Also the information the r/atc2 subreddit posted regarding the meeting minutes and vote is clearly not misinformation since he goes on to verify it in the video. Perhaps they need to take a step back and reevaluate which direction they are going? This seems to be a random take by NDJH.

 

[32andBelow]

There are attempts through anonymous social media forums to deliver misinformation to our membership. This misinformation is not only meant to deceive the voting members, but is a catalyst for distrust and division with industry, the FAA, and our collective ranks. We have been committed to providing the members of NATCA with facts and the truth, which you will find below. We have heard calls to open the contract (now) and start work on a successor to the Slate Book Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA). We have seen Mick Devine and Rich Santa campaign on that very fact. Unfortunately, when they are in the appropriate crowd, they speak to the need to negotiate now without regard to the reality of the circumstances. Yet, in other crowds, they speak to the understanding there are other options. However, Rich Santa briefed the National Executive Board that he attempted to get the Agency to reopen the contract (now), which is early, as a limited reopening, and the agency declined the offer. Therefore, since the Agency declined an early opening to the contract, there is NO ability to open it now. Article 106 of the contract states, “Subject to member ratification, this Agreement shall remain in effect for seventy-two (72) months from the date it is approved by the Parties and shall be automatically renewed for additional periods of one (1) year unless either Party gives written notice to the other of its desire to amend or terminate this Agreement. The written notice must be given not more than one hundred eighty (180) calendar days and not less than one hundred fifty (150) calendar days preceding the expiration date of this Agreement.” What does that mean? Well, it means the earliest a unilateral initiation of contract negotiations could occur is January of 2026. At the March 26-27 NEB meeting, there was a motion made regarding the slate book contact. That motion was, “Absent the ability to delay the decision, extend the slate book contract to 2029 with the ability to open in 2026 by mutual agreement”. Why would NATCA do this? NATCA has a duty to protect this union, its members' rights, and working conditions and find creative solutions to the United States political climate. It is known there are two candidates for the office of President of the United States of America. One of those candidates is the previous President, and while he was in office, he implemented Executive Orders aimed at destroying the ability of federal sector unions to negotiate on behalf of and represent their members properly. The overall goal was to render unions ineffective. The mentioning of the potentially looming Executive Orders isn’t a scare tactic. Under these executive orders, the agency would have the authority to unilaterally impose schedules, and dictate when annual leave is taken without local negotiations. The executive orders become law the moment they are signed and would greatly affect every member of our union. We have been steadfast and unwavering in our faith in ourselves and NATCA to deliver a strong contract to follow the Slate Book. We have been equally unwavering that we wouldn’t play games or politics with something as important as CBA negotiations. It does not show bravery or strength to willfully risk the gains that we have made over decades of contract improvements in the face of one-sided labor, and labor-destroying executive orders; it, in fact, shows arrogance and hubris. The 13,000-plus members covered by the Slate Book and their families deserve representatives who put their well-being before their desires to hold positions. What the NEB delivered the President of NATCA was the ability to protect the members by extending (only if needed) and only if we retain the ability to reopen the CBA in 2026. This was the best option being the Agency told Rich they were unwilling to open the Slate book CBA early. We will be honest, and direct, and will always provide facts for the positions we take on behalf of our fellow NATCA members. In Solidarity,​ Nick Daniels - Candidate for NATCA President Jamaal Haltom - Candidate for NATCA Executive Vice President​

 

[acutetriangles]

At this point, I’m convinced these dudes are running to ensure Rich wins. They are making a fool of themselves at every turn and at a certain point it has to be on purpose.

 

[GulfCharlie]

At this point, I’m convinced these dudes are running to ensure Rich wins. They are making a fool of themselves at every turn and at a certain point it has to be on purpose.

It definitely does make the outsiders more appealing, that is for sure.

 

[LennyA21]

Pretty sure the "anonymous forum" he mentioned is the r/atc2 subreddit. Far as I can tell they are not run by any campaign, so... *shrugs* Also the information the r/atc2 subreddit posted regarding the meeting minutes and vote is clearly not misinformation since he goes on to verify it in the video. Perhaps they need to take a step back and reevaluate which direction they are going? This seems to be a random take by NDJH.

They don’t like that they can’t control the narrative before the information gets out. The yacht, the extension, the underpaid 5. They had to address it all because it was true and ahead of what they control. They then verified all the information was correct but tried putting their spin on it. They’re mad there’s a forum for the union they can’t control.

 

[acutetriangles]

It definitely does make the outsiders more appealing, that is for sure.

Yes. They’re doing JDs work for them. They’re also doing Rich and Micks job too because, literally anyone but Daniels and Jamaal at this point. Tone deaf doesn’t begin to cover it.

 

[GulfCharlie]

They don’t like that they can’t control the narrative before the information gets out. The yacht, the extension, the underpaid 5. They had to address it all because it was true and ahead of what they control. They then verified all the information was correct but tried putting their spin on it. They’re mad there’s a forum for the union they can’t control.

Logically, it was inevitable though. Even if NDJH were not directly responsible for stifling "dissent" by extension, based on their past it is clear that they support it. Similar to how "life finds a way," so shall the dissenters. Instead of embracing that dissent and communicating with it they are choosing to attack it head on and I suspect it will backfire spectacularly to their detriment.

 

[Horno]

This email reeks of fearmongering and a desperate attempt to sway votes. It's infuriating that instead of addressing legitimate concerns about the union's actions and priorities, the leadership resorts to painting a bleak picture of potential executive orders. Where is the accountability for the lack of progress and the mismanagement of resources? Members deserve better than scare tactics and empty promises. It's time for real leadership that prioritizes the interests of the paying members over political posturing. We need leaders who are willing to roll up their sleeves and address the issues head-on, rather than deflecting blame and instilling fear. It's time for change, and it starts with holding our union representatives accountable for their actions—or lack thereof.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

Is JD still alive? If he is he needs to be releasing videos calling out this bull shit. He would crush these fools then beat Santa in a run off if Santa hasn’t gotten anything done with pay by then.

 

[MJ]

They’re mad there’s a forum for the union they can’t control.

they’re just not committed enough. Lemme get one of those “consultant” gigs.

 

[DADDYSbabyBIRD]

Whoever had a part in the last extension needs to be gone, that was a purely political ploy to make sure everyone voted for Biden (who, weirdly enough has turned out to not have a super great "union friendly" administration). We missed out on the best chance we were going to get to increase pay as the inflation was skyrocketing. Now as we approach the kicked can again we are left, oddly enough, with a even worse situation. NATCA has less negotiating power, we have missed the great wage increases that went through the aviation community, another 50/50 election but this time we can see that both candidates are not going to be super favorable, the agency told us no on opening negotiations early, CRWG numbers were just set aside, NATCA let the agency sneak right around the harzad pay in the contract, we have in fighting in the union between two groups that want power and both probably shouldn't have it, lots of negitive ATC related news the past two years.

The options now are, slate book or something like slate book... or worse than slate book. Take your pick.

Your candidate options for NATCA are, sleezy political hacks or sleezy political hacks.

Whoever had a part in the last extension needs to be gone, that was a purely political ploy to make sure everyone voted for Biden (who, weirdly enough has turned out to not have a super great "union friendly" administration). We missed out on the best chance we were going to get to increase pay as the inflation was skyrocketing. Now as we approach the kicked can again we are left, oddly enough, with a even worse situation. NATCA has less negotiating power, we have missed the great wage increases that went through the aviation community, another 50/50 election but this time we can see that both candidates are not going to be super favorable, the agency told us no on opening negotiations early, CRWG numbers were just set aside, NATCA let the agency sneak right around the harzad pay in the contract, we have in fighting in the union between two groups that want power and both probably shouldn't have it, lots of negitive ATC related news the past two years.

The options now are, slate book or something like slate book... or worse than slate book. Take your pick.

Your candidate options for NATCA are, sleezy political hacks or sleezy political hacks.

Sorry JD, you're the third option. An outsider controller who I would vote for but I do have worries you lack the experience for this type of thing. It would take a very dedicated team around you to be effective, and i don't think we can rely on the current NATCA hired or appointed people.

 

[32andBelow]

Is JD still alive? If he is he needs to be releasing videos calling out this bull shit. He would crush these fools then beat Santa in a run off if Santa hasn’t gotten anything done with pay by then.

I’ve spoken to him recently. He’s basically just letting them fight and then he’s going to come in closer to the election with more content. He has been visiting some facilities tho.

 

[HurryUpandWait]

I’ve spoken to him recently. He’s basically just letting them fight and then he’s going to come in closer to the election with more content. He has been visiting some facilities tho.

Smart. Redmond has sounded good too.

They put out a video about the level 4-9 facilities and how they need to be “empowered” and “have a voice” then follow up with a video explaining why to extend the contract.

 

[32andBelow]

The scariest thing to the NEB is controllers who don’t have details or scams. There’s nothing they can hold over our head.

 

[James]

Can someone explain why these two are taking the most heat from this? Aren't most of the NEB responsible for entertaining this including Rich and Mick?

 

[LennyA21]

Can someone explain why these two are taking the most heat from this? Aren't most of the NEB responsible for entertaining this including Rich and Mick?

The motion was made by Nick. Mick voted against it, so no.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

They put out a video about the level 4-9 facilities and how they need to be “empowered” and “have a voice” then follow up with a video explaining why to extend the contract.

That’s mind blowing. Extending the contract would remove any possibility for things like that or adjusting the pay scale for new hires and developmentals