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[DankVectorz]

So are they done stealing the election yet?

no, the Trump brigade is still barricaded outside the Michigan counting location trying to end the count.

 

[AB19]

no, the Trump brigade is still barricaded outside the Michigan counting location trying to end the count.

But democrats are leading lol, it makes no sense

 

[Counterclockwise]

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[grackfields420]

AP called MI, biden at 264. if he wins NV he wins if he loses he loses

 

[Peter Gibbons]

I've voted Republican more in my life than Democrat. I push my conservative friends left and my democratic friends right. I find there is too much imbalance in standard Dem/Rep thinking.

My interest is more in the dissolution of a two party system than libertarian policies, though I have no quarrel with (most) of Jo's stances. I might've been inclined to vote for a different party were any included on all 51 ballots.

See I think the problem is the actual parties are too alike, the gop offers more to middle America, the dems to the coastal cities, but overall the parties want the same thing and thats maintaining a top down power structure. The dems may campaign on left idealism but at the end of the day they still belong to the donor class, Obama being a prime example of that, and this is coming from a guy who thinks he was probably the best president of my lifetime (its a low bar).

The great divide is artificial and based on wedge issues and rhetoric that haven't seen any significant change in years. You keep the people arguing about bullshit and not the real issues for too long and this is what you get.

Like tell me a gop or dem policy point or piece of legislation in the last 20 years thats been more beneficial to you or me than some corporate/private/foreign interest. I'll wait.

 

[DankVectorz]

Like tell me a gop or dem policy point or piece of legislation in the last 20 years thats been more beneficial to you or me than some corporate/private/foreign interest. I'll wait.

being able to stay on parents health insurance til 26 while attending school. Thanks Obama.

 

[GulfCharlie]

See I think the problem is the actual parties are too alike, the gop offers more to middle America, the dems to the coastal cities, but overall the parties want the same thing and thats maintaining a top down power structure. The dems may campaign on left idealism but at the end of the day they still belong to the donor class, Obama being a prime example of that, and this is coming from a guy who thinks he was probably the best president of my lifetime (its a low bar).

The great divide is artificial and based on wedge issues and rhetoric that haven't seen any significant change in years. You keep the people arguing about bullshit and not the real issues for too long and this is what you get.

Like tell me a gop or dem policy point or piece of legislation in the last 20 years thats been more beneficial to you or me than some corporate/private/foreign interest. I'll wait.

Every now and then you kick out a gem, while I disagree with you on Obama I do agree with you on everything else.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

being able to stay on parents health insurance til 26 while attending school. Thanks Obama.

Okay one small part of the overarching bill that benefitted the medical insurance industry more than it did your average working person that still can't afford premiums or gets bankrupted by medical bills.

Agree provisions of the ACA were needed, and i supported it but overall it was a bad law in retrospect.

 

[DankVectorz]

Okay one small part of the overarching bill that benefitted the medical insurance industry more than it did your average working person that still can't afford premiums or gets bankrupted by medical bills.

Agree provisions of the ACA were needed, and i supported it but overall it was a bad law in retrospect.

it was a bad law because the watered down version that was able to get passed had all the best parts removed or nothing would have gotten done. But I digress.

 

[rhombus]

AP called MI, biden at 264. if he wins NV he wins if he loses he loses

What do you know about Georgia that we don’t know?

 

[Shikaka]

See I think the problem is the actual parties are too alike, the gop offers more to middle America, the dems to the coastal cities, but overall the parties want the same thing and thats maintaining a top down power structure. The dems may campaign on left idealism but at the end of the day they still belong to the donor class, Obama being a prime example of that, and this is coming from a guy who thinks he was probably the best president of my lifetime (its a low bar).

The great divide is artificial and based on wedge issues and rhetoric that haven't seen any significant change in years. You keep the people arguing about bullshit and not the real issues for too long and this is what you get.

Like tell me a gop or dem policy point or piece of legislation in the last 20 years thats been more beneficial to you or me than some corporate/private/foreign interest. I'll wait.

All you got to do is look at the GOP in general and look at the 2016 DNC Primaries to tell it's all about generating power for the elites.

 

[32andBelow]

AP called MI, biden at 264. if he wins NV he wins if he loses he loses

Assuming trump holds PA which is a big if

 

[Peter Gibbons]

it was a bad law because the watered down version that was able to get passed had all the best parts removed or nothing would have gotten done. But I digress.

I mean okay, are you arguing the basis of the bill didn't greatly benefit our for profit insurance and medical industry by mandating coverage, and somehow all the provisions that were needed couldn't also be done by a Medicare for all system, probably at better cost for your average American?

 

[DankVectorz]

I mean okay, are you arguing the basis of the bill didn't greatly benefit our for profit insurance and medical industry by mandating coverage, and somehow all the provisions that were needed couldn't also be done by a Medicare for all system, probably at better cost for your average American?

no, not at all. I’m saying the bill that passed did indeed greatly benefit the insurance industry, but the original bill with the single payer would have benefited the average American far more than the insurance companies.

 

[Super Salt]

I’m too buzzed to decipher what I’m reading so my moderator skills have diminished. I apologize in advance to you all ?

 

[Peter Gibbons]

no, not at all. I’m saying the bill that passed did indeed greatly benefit the insurance industry, but the original bill with the single payer would have benefited the average American far more than the insurance companies.

Well maybe instead of feel good half measures that benefit wealthy industry elites the dems should instead focus on changing public opinion on the issue to get people on board. That the Biden plan is the Obama plan, which is the Romney plan tells me everything I need to know about how they really feel about helping the American public on the issue.

 

[Acquired Taste]

Like tell me a gop or dem policy point or piece of legislation in the last 20 years thats been more beneficial to you or me than some corporate/private/foreign interest. I'll wait.

Trick question bro. The only thing beneficial would be if they restored some of our rights they've been chipping away at for the last 100 years but new legislation doesn't protect us or our rights, only further erodes them.

 

[32andBelow]

Maga tears real.

 

[Shikaka]

Maga tears real.

Didn't you disappear into your safe space a few pages ago?

 

[32andBelow]

Didn't you disappear into your safe space a few pages ago?

I just woke up a lil ago