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[DankVectorz]

When did you turn into such a boomer

idk what’s boomer about expecting someone who wants something to put effort into it? Are you really that averse to someone who’s been paid to stay home all this time putting some time in studying for their job?

 

[ClearanceClarence]

The very same second you became the forum’s sniveling whiner.

Man, that’s pretty dang unprofessional coming from a moderator. I get your hard core on the anti-training/trainees bandwagon but geeze.

 

[Super Salt]

Man, that’s pretty dang unprofessional coming from a moderator. I get your hard core on the anti-training/trainees bandwagon but geeze.

I’m a moderator and a member.
Kinda like how NATCA works. I’m a member of the union and, surprisingly, I do not agree with many of their stances.
Being a moderator bars me from having an opinion? I call shit out when it surfaces, no matter the subject or originator.

 

[CaptainObvious]

If you can’t name a single runway, taxiway, approach procedure, a few frequencies, airspace parameters, tidbits of LOA’s, or snippets of the SOP once you return..
Then you deserve to wash. Our new trainees awaiting their first day to the facility will be questioned right at the front door. I hope for their sake they know at least the identifier of where they’re currently training, because I’m training all of them ?❤

Half your coworkers probably don’t know any of that shit you clown

 

[DankVectorz]

Man, that’s pretty dang unprofessional coming from a moderator. I get your hard core on the anti-training/trainees bandwagon but geeze.

It’s an Internet forum, not a business.

 

[Soss]

N90/Mods ruining a nice quiet Sunday by taking a moment to shit on trainees, thanks.

 

[DankVectorz]

N90/Mods ruining a nice quiet Sunday by taking a moment to shit on trainees, thanks.

shitting on trainees? Is expecting them to know their material now shitting on trainees?

 

[CF]

did someone say mods?

 

[Super Salt]

Half your coworkers probably don’t know any of that shit you clown

Unfortunately, you are correct. Hence why I continue to train. I’m kinda the Saving Grace of K___!

 

[CaptainObvious]

If you can’t name a single runway, taxiway, approach procedure, a few frequencies, airspace parameters, tidbits of LOA’s, or snippets of the SOP once you return..
Then you deserve to wash. Our new trainees awaiting their first day to the facility will be questioned right at the front door. I hope for their sake they know at least the identifier of where they’re currently training, because I’m training all of them ?❤

Taxiway Alpha. There. I passed

 

[Shikaka]

Taxiway Alpha. There. I passed

But...aren't you at a tracon?

 

[Southern]

yeah man like you’ve had 5 months off, you can spend a little time every few days studying. No one said anything about spending 8 hours a day in the books. you want the career, earn it. You want to come back so you can train to get raises but you’re not willing to put in some effort while being paid to sit at home so you can know the shit backwards and forwards when you do come back? And you want me to put the effort in to train you? Get outta here with that shit.

If you can’t name a single runway, taxiway, approach procedure, a few frequencies, airspace parameters, tidbits of LOA’s, or snippets of the SOP once you return..
Then you deserve to wash. Our new trainees awaiting their first day to the facility will be questioned right at the front door. I hope for their sake they know at least the identifier of where they’re currently training, because I’m training all of them ?❤

 

[Raise when?]

Hardly anybody washes out anymore that deserves it, at least at the centers i've been at. It's like a ridiculous 90%+ pass rate.

 

[spider]

Lol.

Fuck the union! Fuck CPC’s! Fuck the dream schedules! Fuck you!!! Fuck, fuck, fuck...

Turns into...

Yo, man that ain’t like professional at all that you called me a whiner.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Lol.

Fuck the union! Fuck CPC’s! Fuck the dream schedules! Fuck you!!! Fuck, fuck, fuck...

Turns into...

Yo, man that ain’t like professional at all that you called me a whiner.

To be fair someone else called him unprofessional

 

[32andBelow]

The very same second you became the forum’s sniveling whiner.

Am I talking to you.

 

[Super Salt]

Am I talking to you.

Cast Your Vote!

 

[DankVectorz]

AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise i saw your post briefly before it disappeared. I’m not expecting trainees skills to improve or be the same, I’m just expecting their knowledge to be up to par. Nothing about current circumstances is preventing a trainee at home from studying LOA’s or airspace or the .65.

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

yeah man like you’ve had 5 months off, you can spend a little time every few days studying. No one said anything about spending 8 hours a day in the books. you want the career, earn it. You want to come back so you can train to get raises but you’re not willing to put in some effort while being paid to sit at home so you can know the shit backwards and forwards when you do come back? And you want me to put the effort in to train you? Get outta here with that shit.

You and I are in agreement trainees should know their stuff especially when there’s a training delay (Pandemic, Backlog, etc.). Personally, I’m more worried about the mechanics like phraseology, typing on the keyboard I’ve seen once in 5 months, and the application of the letters and SOPs I haven’t been using. I can read that shit all day, but there’s certainly going to be some regression and rust when we return.

AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise i saw your post briefly before it disappeared. I’m not expecting trainees skills to improve or be the same, I’m just expecting their knowledge to be up to par. Nothing about current circumstances is preventing a trainee at home from studying LOA’s or airspace or the .65.

Shitty internet out here in the boonies. Apparently I quoted 5 posts at once.

 

[DankVectorz]

You and I are in agreement trainees should know their stuff especially when there’s a training delay (Pandemic, Backlog, etc.). Personally, I’m more worried about the mechanics like phraseology, typing on the keyboard I’ve seen once in 5 months, and the application of the letters and SOPs I haven’t been using. I can read that shit all day, but there’s certainly going to be some regression and rust when we return.

ah it’s, back.

I tell all my trainees one thing from the very beginning. You are expected to learn the book work yourself. I can teach you how to apply the rules in the .65, or the LOA or SOP, but to know how to apply it you first have to know what it says. Learning what it says is up to you. The book knowledge trainees are coming to us with from the Academy is EXTREMELY lacking. That’s not the trainees fault, but they’re the ones who have to make up the Academy’s failings. For example, I gave a group of our data trainees fresh from the Academy a quiz about basic knowledge. Things like what are the methods of radar identification. Not one passed. But I wasn’t saying I expect their practical ability to apply these things to be perfect. I don’t expect that at all. I would never expect someone’s practical skills to be normal after this long a hiatus.

And you asked before if trainees will have any kind of spin up before resuming training. At least at my facility thr FAA wants to send them all back to OKC for refresher training. Why they don’t think it would be better just to do that here I don’t know, but yes there will be a chance to knock some of the rust off before actual training resumes.