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[MJ]

Unbelievable Breaking News

You will never believe this unbelievable breaking news.

www.theraleighregister.com

jokes on you, i just wanted to jam to some killer 80s pop

 

[grackfields420]

Lol at holding the whole left responsible for the actions of a few looters while refusing to hold the current president responsible for the complete clusterfuck response to Covid that’s ruined far more lives

I'm not holding the left responsible for anything, I just said that's what I personally associate looting with. I also don't understand how that means whatever you said I'm doing - im not going to vote

The difference between looting and the covid response is apples and oranges but I'd like to point out a key difference: gross negligence vs intentional criminal acts. To be fair both the media and the president downplayed covid since the beginning, i don't think its wise to leave the blame entirely on one partys doorstep

 

[ShortGuy]

I would say thats why Biden and all the left wont even say antifa even exists, i mean facebook groups, uniforms, organized rallys, destruction and all that are all just ideas. If trump thought it was going to cost him voters he wouldnt have said it dozens of times. Like I said before, I'm not a traditional trump supporter, if I thought Jojo had a snowballs chance in hell, or a true moderate democrat I would vote that way in a heartbeat. But if it comes down to losing my first and second amendment, ill take trump over biden any day.

I disagree because Trump could say anything and his base will still support it. He’s denounced it in the past (nowhere near an election) after a mass shooting because it won’t cost him anything. But when the margins are slim right at an election he can’t afford to lose any inspired white supremacist voters.

And if you think Biden will take away 1st and 2nd amendments then I still stand by what I said earlier, you would have voted for Trump no matter who he was up against. If that’s what you believe. Trump would have you believing anyone Running against him would take your freedom of speech and guns away.

 

[32andBelow]

I'm not holding the left responsible for anything, I just said that's what I personally associate looting with. I also don't understand how that means whatever you said I'm doing - im not going to vote

The difference between looting and the covid response is apples and oranges but I'd like to point out a key difference: gross negligence vs intentional criminal acts. To be fair both the media and the president downplayed covid since the beginning, i don't think its wise to leave the blame entirely on one partys doorstep

The president had information about covid that no one else had. He set the course of the response. Trump wears that L.

The media certainly hasn’t downplayed it since the seriousness of it has become Clear.

 

[ShortGuy]

I'm not holding the left responsible for anything, I just said that's what I personally associate looting with. I also don't understand how that means whatever you said I'm doing - im not going to vote

The difference between looting and the covid response is apples and oranges but I'd like to point out a key difference: gross negligence vs intentional criminal acts. To be fair both the media and the president downplayed covid since the beginning, i don't think its wise to leave the blame entirely on one partys doorstep

Maybe you shouldn’t hold the President and the media to the same Or similar standards. Especially when said President had been given the most intelligent briefings about the virus since December that no one else had.

 

[SharkBait]

I disagree because Trump could say anything and his base will still support it. He’s denounced it in the past (nowhere near an election) after a mass shooting because it won’t cost him anything. But when the margins are slim right at an election he can’t afford to lose any inspired white supremacist voters.

And if you think Biden will take away 1st and 2nd amendments then I still stand by what I said earlier, you would have voted for Trump no matter who he was up against. If that’s what you believe. Trump would have you believing anyone Running against him would take your freedom of speech and guns away.

So your saying biden isnt running on an anti gun platform?

Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence | Joe Biden for President

Joe Biden's plan to end gun violence will tackle America's gun violence head on, and treat it as the public health epidemic it is.

joebiden.com

either you know nothing about guns or are just blissfully ignorant on what all this means.

 

[ShortGuy]

So your saying biden isnt running on an anti gun platform?

Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence | Joe Biden for President

Joe Biden's plan to end gun violence will tackle America's gun violence head on, and treat it as the public health epidemic it is.

joebiden.com

either you know nothing about guns or are just blissfully ignorant on what all this means.

Where does it say he’s taking away your 2nd amendment ability to bear arms? Because it sure as hell ain’t there.

 

[SharkBait]

Where does it say he’s taking away your 2nd amendment ability to own a gun? Because it sure as hell ain’t there.

Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines
Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.
Hold gun manufacturers accountable. This protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.

I know this is hard to comprehend so let me phrase it in a way you might be able to understand.

Imagine if driving a car was an enumerated right. Now imagine anytime someone got drunk and crashed a vehicle they could sue the manufacturer, and then they banned all of those that drove 3 miles an hour or more and forced everyone who owned a faster one to destroy or sell back that car. Now this doesnt make driving cars illegal, but in a way it kind of does. See how stupid that sounds?

 

[32andBelow]

Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines
Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.
Hold gun manufacturers accountable. This protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.

I know this is hard to comprehend so let me phrase it in a way you might be able to understand.

Imagine if driving a car was an enumerated right. Now imagine anytime someone got drunk and crashed a vehicle they could sue the manufacturer, and then they banned all of those that drove 3 miles an hour or more and forced everyone who owned a faster one to destroy or sell back that car. Now this doesnt make driving cars illegal, but in a way it kind of does. See how stupid that sounds?

It sounds almost as stupid as saying our country doesn’t have a Gun violence problem

 

[DankVectorz]

Imagine if driving a car was an enumerated right. Now imagine anytime someone got drunk and crashed a vehicle they could sue the manufacturer,

this literally happens all the time with accidents involving injury or death. Same with planes.

 

[CF]

Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines
Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.
Hold gun manufacturers accountable. This protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.

I know this is hard to comprehend so let me phrase it in a way you might be able to understand.

Imagine if driving a car was an enumerated right. Now imagine anytime someone got drunk and crashed a vehicle they could sue the manufacturer, and then they banned all of those that drove 3 miles an hour or more and forced everyone who owned a faster one to destroy or sell back that car. Now this doesnt make driving cars illegal, but in a way it kind of does. See how stupid that sounds?

Of course the purpose of cars is as a mode of transportation. Guns were invented to kill and and at their most basic level are killing machines. So it’s a little different.

 

[SharkBait]

Of course the purpose of cars is as a mode of transportation. Guns were invented to kill and and at their most basic level are killing machines. So it’s a little different.

Thats why we were using our imagination.

 

[grackfields420]

The president had information about covid that no one else had. He set the course of the response. Trump wears that L.

The media certainly hasn’t downplayed it since the seriousness of it has become Clear.

yup i definitely agree with that. but what I'm also saying is the media also initially downplayed covid because it was politically expedient for them to do so because it was contrary to what trump was doing. once people started dying then naturally the narrative shifted to his negligence of the response.

i generally agree with most of the major issues that each tribe has with the other but my op was solely about how I feel that the dems winning would in a sense legitimize looting and violence. i don't think that is an unreasonable opinion to have at all because surely nobody here condones the breaking down of law and order

ps i saw one thing on the news recently that really annoyed me. trump was getting on a chopper to go to the hospital and cnn's reporter jim acosta tweeted "the president did not stop to answer questions". so he was pissed that he didn't stop to answer questions on the way to the hospital, but i would bet a lot of money that if he had stopped to answer questions, jim would have started going bonkers about how the president was endangering people by stopping to answer questions. i get that trump is an idiot and does a lot of dumb stuff but tbh with the media its clear they will make a mountain of an anthill out of anything he does. and with the 24/7 news cycle and every headline being clickbaity, if everything is alarming, then to me it kind of dilutes the credibility of the media in general idk

 

[32andBelow]

yup i definitely agree with that. but what I'm also saying is the media also initially downplayed covid because it was politically expedient for them to do so because it was contrary to what trump was doing. once people started dying then naturally the narrative shifted to his negligence of the response.

i generally agree with most of the major issues that each tribe has with the other but my op was solely about how I feel that the dems winning would in a sense legitimize looting and violence. i don't think that is an unreasonable opinion to have at all because surely nobody here condones the breaking down of law and order

ps i saw one thing on the news recently that really annoyed me. trump was getting on a chopper to go to the hospital and cnn's reporter jim acosta tweeted "the president did not stop to answer questions". so he was pissed that he didn't stop to answer questions on the way to the hospital, but i would bet a lot of money that if he had stopped to answer questions, jim would have started going bonkers about how the president was endangering people by stopping to answer questions. i get that trump is an idiot and does a lot of dumb stuff but tbh with the media its clear they will make a mountain of an anthill out of anything he does. and with the 24/7 news cycle and every headline being clickbaity, if everything is alarming, then to me it kind of dilutes the credibility of the media in general idk

If the media initially downplayed covid it was because the leader was saying things like we have 12 cases and it’ll go down to zero.

 

[DankVectorz]

cnn's reporter jim acosta tweeted "the president did not stop to answer questions". so he was pissed that he didn't stop to answer questions on the way to the hospital,

soubds like he was informing people that the president didn’t stop to answer any questions. You put an angry twist to it in your own head.

 

[CF]

Thats why we were using our imagination.

You’re trying to compare regulating things that are very different. If your goal is to convince someone who has a different view than you this isn’t a very good way to do it.

 

[grackfields420]

soubds like he was informing people that the president didn’t stop to answer any questions. You put an angry twist to it in your own head.

that's a reasonable way of interpreting the meaning of the tweet, but given acosta's history with the administration do you think it would be unreasonable for someone to interpret it how I did?

 

[ShortGuy]

Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines
Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.
Hold gun manufacturers accountable. This protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.

I know this is hard to comprehend so let me phrase it in a way you might be able to understand.

Imagine if driving a car was an enumerated right. Now imagine anytime someone got drunk and crashed a vehicle they could sue the manufacturer, and then they banned all of those that drove 3 miles an hour or more and forced everyone who owned a faster one to destroy or sell back that car. Now this doesnt make driving cars illegal, but in a way it kind of does. See how stupid that sounds?

So even if ALL that went through, you’d still have the right to bear arms, would you not?

 

[DankVectorz]

that's a reasonable way of interpreting the meaning of the tweet, but given acosta's history with the administration do you think it would be unreasonable for someone to interpret it how I did?

yes.

 

[SharkBait]

So even if ALL that went through, you’d still have the right to bear arms, would you not?

In the same way that in the example I provided would allow you to drive, so yes but actually no.