Terminal Class pass rate

matthew.laxton said:

I do, first dude pissed me off talking about my tower thx.

Stop washing 30% at a level 6 tower and they will.

redsphanatic said:

Stop washing 30% at a level 6 tower and they will.

Idk why it’s at 30% we have only had one guy hardship that didn’t finish training but we haven’t had one wash since 2017 and thst dude quit to go work in SaltLake or something.

So you’re better than people at a level 6? I love how you throw in there “at a level 6” lol I love my level 6 we close everyday at 2100 and many times we as a tower go have a beer at our local bars. I’ve done the 24/7 before and it can be challenging. Seriously, working at a country club has its perks.

ajmezz said:

I can picture everyone in that class fighting tooth and nail over who gets to go to PAO after that solid review and idea of a future coworker.

Yeah you’re right. Somebody that will fight for them….. No offense I’ve come off a little rough I get it.

matthew.laxton said:

It is expensive 100% can’t avoid that lol. But live 30min away and you can find very affordable living. Most the folks here at PAO are in that 20-30min range. Also traffic can be nuts like most city areas.

I also work in the Bay Area, I can’t even imagine what is cheaper around PAO. There’s people who work in Tracy, and Modesto where I’m at. Lol.

matthew.laxton said:

Idk why it’s at 30% we have only had one guy hardship that didn’t finish training but we haven’t had one wash since 2017 and thst dude quit to go work in SaltLake or something.

So you’re better than people at a level 6? I love how you throw in there “at a level 6” lol I love my level 6 we close everyday at 2100 and many times we as a tower go have a beer at our local bars. I’ve done the 24/7 before and it can be challenging. Seriously, working at a country club has its perks.

Yeah you’re right. Somebody that will fight for them….. No offense I’ve come off a little rough I get it.

PAO has never been a country club lol.

GulfCharlie said:

PAO has never been a country club lol.

Well, I hope whoever gets it like it there, because they've only released 2 people in NCEPT in over 2 and a half years. Plan for at least a 5 year vacation in the Bay Area!

Ibreezeby said:

I also work in the Bay Area, I can’t even imagine what is cheaper around PAO. There’s people who work in Tracy, and Modesto where I’m at. Lol.

Lol well SFO, PAO, SJC, RHV, OAK and ZOA are the Bay Area towers. And somehow SCK is too. Fk that traffic though from Tracy to the Bay Area and back.

redsphanatic said:

7/15 List:
PIA
PIA
BFL
BFL
PAO
SPI
APC
LAF
MKG
OMA
DPA

Alt: FAI

Chances are someone will wash out but DPA is the best facility on that list from what I’ve heard…

redsphanatic said:

7/15 List:
PIA
PIA
BFL
BFL
PAO
SPI
APC
LAF
MKG
OMA
DPA

Alt: FAI

Hot take but PIA might be the best choice in that list. With their 804 going thru soon and looking at the numbers, it's got to be some kind of glitch making their projected numbers so bad. Currently 21/22 aob and 5 trainees, 1 outbound and they are projected 69%? Can't be right. I think for a 24 hour level 4 tower that they are about to become, they're probably looking at a staffing number similar to DAY at 15. TL;DR once their target gets adjusted they, they're going to have hella cat 1 releases.

Outside of that speculation, if I'm just ranking them straight up, give me OMA, LAF, PIA, SPI. DPA is somewhere in that mix if everyone passes but that's unlikely. I'd avoid Cali at all costs, especially PAO for obvious reasons. (See Matt above)

Lstanley said:

My class has our final PEs coming up very soon and I was wondering if anyone had any advice on what to expect, the difficulty compared to regular sims and what usually causes students to fail?

Breathe. Don’t rush. You know exactly what to do, you’ve made it this far. Remember to scan. Get your departures out when you have a gap so you can avoid delays.

Acquired Taste said:

Hot take but PIA might be the best choice in that list. With their 804 going thru soon and looking at the numbers, it's got to be some kind of glitch making their projected numbers so bad. Currently 21/22 aob and 5 trainees, 1 outbound and they are projected 69%? Can't be right. I think for a 24 hour level 4 tower that they are about to become, they're probably looking at a staffing number similar to DAY at 15. TL;DR once their target gets adjusted they, they're going to have hella cat 1 releases.

Outside of that speculation, if I'm just ranking them straight up, give me OMA, LAF, PIA, SPI. DPA is somewhere in that mix if everyone passes but that's unlikely. I'd avoid Cali at all costs, especially PAO for obvious reasons. (See Matt above)

I don’t know a lot about the facility specifically, but I did work at the PIA airport for a bit. Joint use airport that has some military C130 activity. Commercial service is pretty light, but American, United, and Allegiant all fly in there. One of the busier Midwest hubs for AAY, actually. UPS had at least had one flight a night, but not sure anymore. Some business GA activity, but with Caterpillar headquarters leaving soon, not sure if that will change. Fairly easy layout to learn.

DM me if you want a little more info.

Anyone know why KHIO has a low success rate?

flyguy2017 said:

Anyone know why KHIO has a low success rate?

I would guess COL

BFL smells like cow shit.

No idea what the actual facility is like.

Mr. Miner said:

BFL smells like cow shit.

No idea what the actual facility is like.

Cow shit.

Mkhyt said:

Breathe. Don’t rush. You know exactly what to do, you’ve made it this far. Remember to scan. Get your departures out when you have a gap so you can avoid delays.

If you get wrapped up with the traffic in the pattern, take an L for a couple delays. Rather not get dinged off runway incursions or separation errors.

NewWon0720 said:

If you get wrapped up with the traffic in the pattern, take an L for a couple delays. Rather not get dinged off runway incursions or separation errors.

Depending on how many planes are waiting for departure, it could be more points lost that way considering it’s points lost per plane.

Whiskey Charlie said:

Depending on how many planes are waiting for departure, it could be more points lost that way considering it’s points lost per plane.

If I remember correctly, the delay timer starts and accumulates when you could reasonably launch a plane free of conflicts. I had like 8-10 planes stacked up on the taxiway and I lost 20 points due to delay. Still passed with a 76. I definitely got the safety aspect nailed down.

Whiskey Charlie said:

Depending on how many planes are waiting for departure, it could be more points lost that way considering it’s points lost per plane.

Definitely, if you start seeing the strips aren't disappearing, better start moving faster. 🙂
Good luck academy guy, we'll see you soon.

Mr. Miner said:

BFL smells like cow shit.

No idea what the actual facility is like.

Went to the tower for a tour. It doesn’t smell like cow shit. However, they need a new tower and with the radar moving to FAT, they might get one and become a level 5 tower only. The city owns the tower though, so city might build a new one. So maybe 2035?

Spaceforce said:

Went to the tower for a tour. It doesn’t smell like cow shit. However, they need a new tower and with the radar moving to FAT, they might get one and become a level 5 tower only. The city owns the tower though, so city might build a new one. So maybe 2035?

I was referring to the city as a whole