Terminal Class pass rate

Hope said:

3/1 Terminal List

AVP
ACK
HWD
BTRx2
LFTx2
LAF
DLH
HPN
BTR
SUS
PNS
CMI

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Class finished 12/14

3/8 Terminal List
AVP
ILG
ACK
TVC
GRR
DLH
TLH
LAF
STP
DLH
ILM
HTS
LBB
PHF
BTR

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Hope said:

3/8 Terminal List
AVP
ILG
ACK
TVC
GRR
DLH
TLH
LAF
STP
DLH
ILM
HTS
LBB
PHF
BTR

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Class finished 12/15

Wonder when we see the first level 8 tower on one of these lists

JNev said:

Wonder when we see the first level 8 tower on one of these lists

.......never.....

3/22 Terminal List

ACK - MANDATORY
ACK - MADNATORY
AVP
TVC
DLH
DLH
HTS
BTR
GRR
JAN
HLN
YNG
CMA
PTK
SHV
AGS

Before anyone asks, literally straight from the list, next to ACK, are the words in all caps: "MANDATORY"

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Hope said:

3/22 Terminal List

ACK - MANDATORY
ACK - MADNATORY
AVP
TVC
DLH
DLH
HTS
BTR
GRR
JAN
HLN
YNG
CMA
PTK
SHV
AGS

Before anyone asks, literally straight from the list, next to ACK, are the words in all caps: "MANDATORY"

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Oof.

Sassyquatch said:

.......never.....

According to Reddit, someone heard on a NATCA visit that there will start to be select 8's on lists

JNev said:

According to Reddit, someone heard on a NATCA visit that there will start to be select 8's on lists

I think that would be a positive change. They should look at the ERR demand sheet and let anyone who scores an 85 or higher go to the less desirable 8s. Places that have fewer than 10 inbound ERRs on file. ANC, VNY, ICT, OAK, ORF, OKC, etc.... I think they should also run new hire RTF classes and send them to JCF, A11, U90, R90, AZO, and Y90.

I believe the plan is for graduates who score a 90 or above in IQT to be eligible to select from certain 8’s. No idea when that is going to start or what level 8’s will be offered.

What about 9’s

stankmasta said:

What about 9’s

Not included.

I’m sure everyone stuck at low level facilities will love seeing grads going to 8’s that they’ve had ERRs into for years. There are way more desirable locations for 8’s

But, if I had the same opportunity from the academy I’d love the chance for a 8. So I see both sides of the coin

JNev said:

According to Reddit, someone heard on a NATCA visit that there will start to be select 8's on lists

I can confirm this. Santa was at our NATCA meeting last week and said they hope to have the agreement signed in the next month. The other post regarding the 90% or above is correct. He made it sound like any level 8 would be offered, regardless of staffing (though that seemed strange to me). He did say if they try this, and after time it proves to be successful, they may look into adding 9s into the mix. Anyone who would score 90% or greater could choose a 9 and those who score 80% or better could choose an 8. So, we shall see.

boilergirl87 said:

after time it proves to be successful, they may look into adding 9s into the mix

or he could just look back a few years, to all the other times they've tried this and failed.

I would guess that there’s probably only 50-100 students per year that graduate above a 90%. It will help, but it’s a small dent.

MJ said:

or he could just look back a few years, to all the other times they've tried this and failed.

It is on about a 10-12 year recycle of ideas. I cannot wait for the next bio-q :O

boilergirl87 said:

I can confirm this. Santa was at our NATCA meeting last week and said they hope to have the agreement signed in the next month. The other post regarding the 90% or above is correct. He made it sound like any level 8 would be offered, regardless of staffing (though that seemed strange to me). He did say if they try this, and after time it proves to be successful, they may look into adding 9s into the mix. Anyone who would score 90% or greater could choose a 9 and those who score 80% or better could choose an 8. So, we shall see.

Imagine being stuck in NCEPT hell trying to get to the coveted 8's DAL, HOU, SAN, CHS, etc..., only to see an academy grad leapfrog you. Any 8's that are offered should be reflected based on current staffing, overtime allotment, and average yearly NCEPT inbounds.

Foppery&Whim said:

Imagine being stuck in NCEPT hell trying to get to the coveted 8's DAL, HOU, SAN, CHS, etc..., only to see an academy grad leapfrog you. Any 8's that are offered should be reflected based on current staffing, overtime allotment, and average yearly NCEPT inbounds.

Not exactly the same, but it happens at the EnRoute level too. Wanting one Z to end up at another across the country while an AG gets to the Z you want on the next list. It's all fucked.

bomber996 said:

Not exactly the same, but it happens at the EnRoute level too. Wanting one Z to end up at another across the country while an AG gets to the Z you want on the next list. It's all fucked.

Yeah, its a tale as old as time. When I initially got hired, lists were coming out about every 2 weeks. They gave me my 3rd ranked facility and the next list came out had my first and second ranked on it. It was quite the introduction to the faa.