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Terminal Class pass rate

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  1. Sassyquatch #2861

    Good for any AG that can get an 8, but I think it's an awful idea. There are SO many 4,5,6 & 7s that are already having a hard time being staffed. They need to fix lower levels before they think about including even more facilities.

    How about we staff most of these lower facilities to over 100% so that we can get some more upward movement through our system? Put a cap on ncept so you can only jump 3 levels up instead of 5>12? But nooooo we need to include even more facilities into the AG placement jackpot, but also only hire 1500 people/year.

    I have paperwork into 8's, 9's, 10's, 11's, AND 12's. I'm at a level 7 up/down where we are forced into 6 day work weeks, possibly for forever. I don't see our staffing ever getting better since the FAA will never place enough people here for us to be "projected" over 100%. The FAA and NATCA are just adding more problems into this already fucked up system. Collaboration my ass

  2. Bird.Person #2862
    Sassyquatch said:

    Good for any AG that can get an 8, but I think it's an awful idea. There are SO many 4,5,6 & 7s that are already having a hard time being staffed. They need to fix lower levels before they think about including even more facilities.

    How about we staff most of these lower facilities to over 100% so that we can get some more upward movement through our system? Put a cap on ncept so you can only jump 3 levels up instead of 5>12? But nooooo we need to include even more facilities into the AG placement jackpot, but also only hire 1500 people/year.

    I have paperwork into 8's, 9's, 10's, 11's, AND 12's. I'm at a level 7 up/down where we are forced into 6 day work weeks, possibly for forever. I don't see our staffing ever getting better since the FAA will never place enough people here for us to be "projected" over 100%. The FAA and NATCA are just adding more problems into this already fucked up system. Collaboration my ass

    At least you can get AGs. I’m at an 8 that only ever gets washouts from centers and occasional hardships. Some AGs would be nice. They’re at least motivated to check out.

  3. Soul_Controller #2863

    On one hand, there is no reason most of the 8 tower onlys shouldn't get academy grads. On the other hand, a lot of people are going to get sent to places like CRP or ORF and wash the fuck out on radar.

  4. Sassyquatch #2864
    Bird.Person said:

    At least you can get AGs. I’m at an 8 that only ever gets washouts from centers and occasional hardships. Some AGs would be nice. They’re at least motivated to check out.

    It's been 3 years since our last AG and historically we rarely get them. Honestly, I hope we don't get another AG again for their sake unless they can change the pay raises. We have so many positions now that it'll probably take at least 2 years for an AG to get their first pay raise. Would be nice to not be last in seniority tho

  5. Mike_Lima #2865
    Bird.Person said:

    At least you can get AGs. I’m at an 8 that only ever gets washouts from centers and occasional hardships. Some AGs would be nice. They’re at least motivated to check out.

    I would like my facility to get AGs because I don’t want to be at the bottom of seniority forever

  6. Schu04 #2866
    Sassyquatch said:

    It's been 3 years since our last AG and historically we rarely get them. Honestly, I hope we don't get another AG again for their sake unless they can change the pay raises. We have so many positions now that it'll probably take at least 2 years for an AG to get their first pay raise. Would be nice to not be last in seniority tho

    Forgive my ignorance, but does anyone know how the agency determines the need for D1/2/3 paybands at a facility? If you have so many positions that it takes 2 years to get a pay raise at someone’s first facility, that seems to be a major issue.

  7. Mike_Lima #2867
    Schu04 said:

    Forgive my ignorance, but does anyone know how the agency determines the need for D1/2/3 paybands at a facility? If you have so many positions that it takes 2 years to get a pay raise at someone’s first facility, that seems to be a major issue.

    This is all addressed in the slate book.
    It’s all based on facility level/type/postions, etc. For instance a lvl 7/8 up/down has D2/D3-CPC, while a 9-12 up/down has D1-3/CPC. In order to reach each D band you need to certify on X% of positions the facility has in total. At a lvl 8 D2 is 33% D3 66%. At lvl 9+ D1 25% D2 50%, etc.
    So if there are 6 positions (Ground/CD/Local/Departure/Coordinator/Approach) just do the math in order to know when you will be eligible for a raise.

  8. Hope #2868
    Hope said:

    3/22 Terminal List

    ACK - MANDATORY
    ACK - MADNATORY
    AVP
    TVC
    DLH
    DLH
    HTS
    BTR
    GRR
    JAN
    HLN
    YNG
    CMA
    PTK
    SHV
    AGS

    Before anyone asks, literally straight from the list, next to ACK, are the words in all caps: "MANDATORY"

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

    Class finished 14/15

  9. KiloZulu #2869
    Hope said:

    Class finished 14/15

    So how's that work then? Last 2 people to place are forced to go to ACK if no one else picked it?

  10. GulfBravoPapa #2870
    KiloZulu said:

    So how's that work then? Last 2 people to place are forced to go to ACK if no one else picked it?

    Yes

  11. ClearanceClarence #2871
    GulfBravoPapa said:

    Yes

    They just changed the placement rules and already found a way around it to fuck people. Classic.

  12. GulfBravoPapa #2872
    ClearanceClarence said:

    They just changed the placement rules and already found a way around it to fuck people. Classic.

    I mean mandatory slots isn't exactly a new concept.

  13. Hope #2873

    3/29 Terminal List

    AVP
    TVC
    DLH
    DLH
    PHF
    TRI
    GRR
    ROA
    HLN
    PTK
    GPT
    PAO
    RNO
    MAF
    DSM
    ROC
    AMA

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

  14. Hope #2874
    Hope said:

    3/29 Terminal List

    AVP
    TVC
    DLH
    DLH
    PHF
    TRI
    GRR
    ROA
    HLN
    PTK
    GPT
    PAO
    RNO
    MAF
    DSM
    ROC
    AMA

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

    Class went 16/17

  15. Hope #2875

    4/8 Terminal List

    RHV
    ORL
    PHF
    GTF
    HLN
    PTK
    MAF
    FAT
    DLH
    TVC
    MWH
    POU
    TRI
    TWF
    RHV
    EUG
    SMF
    ILM

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

  16. S.T.O.P. #2876
    Hope said:

    4/8 Terminal List

    RHV
    ORL
    PHF
    GTF
    HLN
    PTK
    MAF
    FAT
    DLH
    TVC
    MWH
    POU
    TRI
    TWF
    RHV
    EUG
    SMF
    ILM

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

    Some dope spots on there

  17. CF #2877
    Hope said:

    4/8 Terminal List

    RHV
    ORL
    PHF
    GTF
    HLN
    PTK
    MAF
    FAT
    DLH
    TVC
    MWH
    POU
    TRI
    TWF
    RHV
    EUG
    SMF
    ILM

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

    If you want to get released quickly go to SMF. They’ve released tons of people and have a quick checkout time.

  18. 22papa #2878

    Best list I’ve seen in a long time

  19. the inquirer #2879
    CF said:

    If you want to get released quickly go to SMF. They’ve released tons of people and have a quick checkout time.

    And they don’t work pattern traffic

  20. Hope #2880
    Hope said:

    4/8 Terminal List

    RHV
    ORL
    PHF
    GTF
    HLN
    PTK
    MAF
    FAT
    DLH
    TVC
    MWH
    POU
    TRI
    TWF
    RHV
    EUG
    SMF
    ILM

    From the ATC New Hiring Discord

    Class finished 15/18

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