Terminal Class pass rate

Hope said:

Class finished 13/17. Planning on picking:
AFW
FPR
APC
GSO
BFI
SGF
CAE x2
PNS
GEG
FWA
ADW
SYR

That’s a decent list!

Hope said:

8/5 Terminal List:
Cat B: MMU, FWA, TOL, ELM, POC, ALO
Cat C: Literally every facility 4-7
Cat D: Some 8's (reserved for graduates that score 90+)

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Class finished 10/16. Picked:

1. HOU
2. DSM
3. MOB
4. FTW
5. GPT
6. TOL
7. LVK
8. GSO
9. MMU
10. FWA

Hope said:

Class finished 10/16. Picked:

1. HOU
2. DSM
3. MOB
4. FTW
5. GPT
6. TOL
7. LVK
8. GSO
9. MMU
10. FWA

Yuck. Who would want to go to HOU?

Hope said:

ANC BHM DVT PRC OAK SNA APA COS RSW BOI MID ICT AZO ABQ CLE CMH OKC TUL CHS MEM TYS CRP HOU ORF MKE

An AG going to ORF 🤣🤣🤣👌🏻

22papa said:

If you really wanna go to an up/down for some reason find a place like HUF that is losing their approach soon, get your radar experience then transfer when they go tower only. But also don’t go to a place like that cuz it’s shithole indiana.

This is horrible advice to any AG. Bidding 804 voluntary moves is seniority based. I don’t think I need to say more…

SquawkHijack said:

An AG going to ORF 🤣🤣🤣👌🏻

This is horrible advice to any AG. Bidding 804 voluntary moves is seniority based. I don’t think I need to say more…

You still end up as a temporarily fat staffed tower only with half the training time is the point. I’d never recommend an up/down in the first place. But some people wanna work approach no matter what.

22papa said:

You still end up as a temporarily fat staffed tower only with half the training time is the point. I’d never recommend an up/down in the first place. But some people wanna work approach no matter what.

Up/downs are the best way to learn fundamentals.

KP-ATC said:

Up/downs are the best way to learn fundamentals.

Best way to engrain how decisions affect the facilities around you too. Id venture to say people who come from up/downs are generally more operationally empathetic compared to the headbutting at PCT/DCA for example.

8/12 Terminal List:
Cat B: FWA ELM POC ALO
Cat C: Literally every facility 4-7
Cat D: Some 8's (reserved for graduates that score 90+)

Class finished 14/18. No idea what was picked other than the mandatory FWA ELM POC

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Hope said:

8/12 Terminal List:
Cat B: FWA ELM POC ALO
Cat C: Literally every facility 4-7
Cat D: Some 8's (reserved for graduates that score 90+)

Class finished 14/18. No idea what was picked other than the mandatory FWA ELM POC

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Was surprised to find out we got one from this class. was not expecting at all.

KP-ATC said:

Up/downs are the best way to learn fundamentals.

Agreed, but also the worst starting point for career progression currently

Hope said:

8/12 Terminal List:
Cat B: FWA ELM POC ALO
Cat C: Literally every facility 4-7
Cat D: Some 8's (reserved for graduates that score 90+)

Class finished 14/18. No idea what was picked other than the mandatory FWA ELM POC

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Picked:
ELM
LBB
STL
POC
FWA
HIO
TMB
MEM
CHS
LEX
GPT
MKG
PDK x 2

Hope said:

Picked:
ELM
LBB
STL
POC
FWA
HIO
TMB
MEM
CHS
LEX
GPT
MKG
PDK x 2

Can one put in paperwork to the academy?

S.T.O.P. said:

Can one put in paperwork to the academy?

Can I quit and apply OTS next bid 🤔

RedTail said:

Can I quit and apply OTS next bid 🤔

Shit for real man! I guess I'm happy for the newbies but at the same time I'm salty as fuck knowing there are hella people still stuck at their first facility because it as the best of a bunch of shitty options and there is no sign for them to get out.

BussyBomber said:

Shit for real man! I guess I'm happy for the newbies but at the same time I'm salty as fuck knowing there are hella people still stuck at their first facility because it as the best of a bunch of shitty options and there is no sign for them to get out.

It will keep some of the newbies from joining the line (in any order) that you’ve been standing in for years

Move78 said:

It will keep some of the newbies from joining the line (in any order) that you’ve been standing in for years

Or in other words, they get to skip the line. Good for them, but can we at least acknowledge this is a kick in the teeth to anyone stuck at there first lvl 4-7 facility. AG’s are getting sent to 100% staffed facilities with less than a year training time, meanwhile controllers with 5-10 years in the agency are stuck at their <80% staffed facility.

KP-ATC said:

Up/downs are the best way to learn fundamentals.

True but no one gives a rats ass anymore

Wisskey Tanggo Fokstrot said:

Or in other words, they get to skip the line. Good for them, but can we at least acknowledge this is a kick in the teeth to anyone stuck at there first lvl 4-7 facility. AG’s are getting sent to 100% staffed facilities with less than a year training time, meanwhile controllers with 5-10 years in the agency are stuck at their <80% staffed facility.

That’s because the FAA has never cared about 4-7 and never will. Y’all quit and they will but another chump in your position for 5yrs until they quit and continuously repeat the cycle. Pretty smart actually then the govt boys don’t have to pay out a pension. 😂

Wisskey Tanggo Fokstrot said:

Or in other words, they get to skip the line. Good for them, but can we at least acknowledge this is a kick in the teeth to anyone stuck at there first lvl 4-7 facility. AG’s are getting sent to 100% staffed facilities with less than a year training time, meanwhile controllers with 5-10 years in the agency are stuck at their <80% staffed facility.

The kick in the teeth was getting sent to where you don’t want to be when you were hired.
And The Agency’s position on this is no one’s stuck anywhere because we all accepted the job offer and chose to be there in the first place.

This is why you don't go terminal. Enroute or bust. Even under the old placement rules, unless you got ZNY or ZOA you could still live and retire pretty damn comfortably. And even then someone at ZOA would do okay compared to the chump down the street at PAO. With the new lists you'd be a sucker to go enroute. Back when I went to the academy many years ago it was possible to request one or the other, so that's what everyone should be doing today.