Training hold

[FightingIrish2012]

After totally showing they have zero pull on covid vaccines. No thanks.

They are smart, they know COVID was a overblown farce, their "pull" was letting most of us work part-time or not at all for full pay for 11 months now.

 

[Phillytroll69]

After totally showing they have zero pull on covid vaccines. No thanks.

They have pull on our additional raise, our funding

 

[32andBelow]

They have pull on our additional raise, our funding

And I pay them. Your telling me my regular dues don’t go to contract negotiations? That’s literally the whole point of a union

 

[Move78]

And I pay them. Your telling me my regular dues don’t go to contract negotiations? That’s literally the whole point of a union

Yes your dues go towards the contract etc. PAC is for bribing congress for legislation. It seems disconnected because it’s easy to overlook but legislation and EOs can change everything in either direction.

 

[Traffic8Out]

but if you do get a promotion to higher facilities you should adjust it proportional.

They already do it for you, belee dat.

 

[32andBelow]

Yes your dues go towards the contract etc. PAC is for bribing congress for legislation. It seems disconnected because it’s easy to overlook but legislation and EOs can change everything in either direction.

They haven’t been very good at bribing anyone during this whole thing

 

[Billybob]

They already do it for you, belee dat.

1.5% at 49k ——-> 1.5% at 150k, plus they get 1.5% of my annual raise and overtime... seems pretty proportional to me

 

[jdatc]

1.5% at 49k ——-> 1.5% at 150k, plus they get 1.5% of my annual raise and overtime... seems pretty proportional to me

1.5% of your overtime? Um, no.

 

[Spaceforce]

1.5% at 49k ——-> 1.5% at 150k, plus they get 1.5% of my annual raise and overtime... seems pretty proportional to me

They only get 1.4% of you salary. So if you work extra they don’t get any of that %.

 

[RH316]

5 on 5 off fo lyfe.

 

[HairTrafficControl]

They haven’t been very good at bribing anyone during this whole thing

They almost got us included in the Paid Parental Leave the first time! Your extra PAC money at work

 

[32andBelow]

They almost got us included in the Paid Parental Leave the first time! Your extra PAC money at work

They even thought they did and sent out a brag email!

 

[Stinger]

Our management said they'll only allow vaccinations in coordination with our RDOs, because you know the staffing is the most important thing during a pandemic...

Sounds like they're taking examples from other facilities that don't fit your criteria.
I believe that for the facilities on 5/5 or 5/10, they can say they won't give EA unless you're getting vaccinated during your EA days. Prevents you from getting recalled.
If they get it during the days they work, sick leave isn't unreasonable.
But for the facilities that are on the BWS schedule, there's only a short window when a vaccination could happen that doesn't affect the facility staffing. For them, it should be the controllers schedule the vaccine when they can and then any schedule gap is filled with OT to cover for the EA.

 

[Shikaka]

Sounds like they're taking examples from other facilities that don't fit your criteria.
I believe that for the facilities on 5/5 or 5/10, they can say they won't give EA unless you're getting vaccinated during your EA days. Prevents you from getting recalled.
If they get it during the days they work, sick leave isn't unreasonable.
But for the facilities that are on the BWS schedule, there's only a short window when a vaccination could happen that doesn't affect the facility staffing. For them, it should be the controllers schedule the vaccine when they can and then any schedule gap is filled with OT to cover for the EA.

Yeah, doesn't help if we have one more person down we'll be alert for a staffing trigger, they're trying to protect those bonuses.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Sounds like they're taking examples from other facilities that don't fit your criteria.
I believe that for the facilities on 5/5 or 5/10, they can say they won't give EA unless you're getting vaccinated during your EA days. Prevents you from getting recalled.
If they get it during the days they work, sick leave isn't unreasonable.
But for the facilities that are on the BWS schedule, there's only a short window when a vaccination could happen that doesn't affect the facility staffing. For them, it should be the controllers schedule the vaccine when they can and then any schedule gap is filled with OT to cover for the EA.

We were told that if we got the vaccine on our own we’d be forced to take our own sick time

 

[CF]

We were told that if we got the vaccine on our own we’d be forced to take our own sick time

Same. Ours is if you don’t coordinate with the atm they can deny the EA and make you use sick. I get my second shot in a couple weeks and will get one day of EA. Could be worse.

 

[Mike Kilo]

Sounds like y’all need to “seek” Covid testing and get some EA under the FAA’s Pilot Policy to Reduce Exposure of Potential COVID-19 Positive Employees in Critical FAA Facilities. You have until March 15th! Nothing says you can’t get vaccinated right after a test (just supposed to wait after a positive) and the FAA can’t require you to provide proof of vaccination right?

 

[32andBelow]

Sounds like y’all need to “seek” Covid testing and get some EA under the FAA’s Pilot Policy to Reduce Exposure of Potential COVID-19 Positive Employees in Critical FAA Facilities. You have until March 15th! Nothing says you can’t get vaccinated right after a test (just supposed to wait after a positive) and the FAA can’t require you to provide proof of vaccination right?

Can’t get vaccinated cus almost none of us qualify lol.

 

[Phillytroll69]

They even thought they did and sent out a brag email!

Wait we aren't in that

 

[Mike Kilo]

Wait we aren't in that

We are now. We weren’t initially.