You got hazard pay. If you are still in 5/5 you still are getting hazard pay. Getting paid to not work or work less than you agreed to sure sounds like hazard pay to me.
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I haven’t been on 5/5 since the end of summer. Hazard pay plz
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Yes!
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Well, it's official - my partner has been off the floor for a year, so she's essentially back where she was when she first transferred here. I don't imagine her being recalled until they're ready to run classes again, so... Bring on our vaccines, maybe we can make some lemonade out of all this.
What states have controllers in their current eligibility level? Might be worth a risky trip if one of them is open to non residents.
What states have controllers in their current eligibility level? Might be worth a risky trip if one of them is open to non residents.
New york you can get it now
Dousand24
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LMFAO yeah ok
Did you not get paid for time you did not work? Did I miss something
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It’s not much but it’s honest work
These 99.9X % survival rates are fundamentally false on their face. .12% of the entire population of the US has died from the virus. That means if every single citizen had the virus and either recovered or died, there would be survival rate of 99.88%. Obviously, not every person has contracted the virus. These survival rates are a result of people living in an information bubble in which they tell each other these false statistics and ignore any actual data that proves them to be false. Not only is the data ignored, but after being presented the facts, the same people continue to parrot the same false statistics. If you're a fact denier, please feel free to ignore this post.
There have been 23,870,579 confirmed cases in the US, and 406,000 deaths. using these numbers would yield a case fatality rate of ~1.4% or a corresponding survival rate of ~98.6%.
covidestim.org and covid19-projections.com have conducted reliable data modelling based on confirmed covid positive tests and covid antibody testing to project the total number of infections. Based on Source, there have been approximately 81,200,000 actual total infections in the US. That would yield a case fatality rate of ~0.5% or a corresponding survival rate of ~99.5%. 25% of deaths have occurred in the past 5 weeks, and easily searched data will reveal that we currently have the highest current infection rates to date. As deaths lag test positives by 2+ weeks, it's likely that case fatality rate is considerably lower than the actual rate.
In short, the actual case fatality rate is definitely higher than 99.5%, and likely around 99-99.25%.
Death is not the only life changing outcome of COVID-19 infection. Significantly more people survive and have long-lasting serious health complications as a result of infection that those that die from the virus.
There have been 23,870,579 confirmed cases in the US, and 406,000 deaths. using these numbers would yield a case fatality rate of ~1.4% or a corresponding survival rate of ~98.6%.
covidestim.org and covid19-projections.com have conducted reliable data modelling based on confirmed covid positive tests and covid antibody testing to project the total number of infections. Based on Source, there have been approximately 81,200,000 actual total infections in the US. That would yield a case fatality rate of ~0.5% or a corresponding survival rate of ~99.5%. 25% of deaths have occurred in the past 5 weeks, and easily searched data will reveal that we currently have the highest current infection rates to date. As deaths lag test positives by 2+ weeks, it's likely that case fatality rate is considerably lower than the actual rate.
In short, the actual case fatality rate is definitely higher than 99.5%, and likely around 99-99.25%.
Death is not the only life changing outcome of COVID-19 infection. Significantly more people survive and have long-lasting serious health complications as a result of infection that those that die from the virus.
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I think ppl are talking about the death rate in their age group. Or the age group of most of the work force
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Buddy, I ain’t bitching about that, I’m bitching about how the contract is being violated. You don’t wanna pay hazard pay, take it out. But if you’re gonna put us in a situation where all decisions are made on knee-jerk reactions without proper protocol on anything, give me my hazard pay.
First, the lowest case fatality rate among those age 30-39 in countries with reliable is in South Korea is 0.11%, so approximately 1 in 900. The majority of the work force of the FAA is 30+.
Second, the only logical conclusion from saying "training should continue because I'm at low risk of dying from this virus" is that there is an underlying assertion that one does not have a high enough concern for those that get infected as a result of training low risk individuals to forego training until it can be done in a way that prevents spread of the virus. It's a valid assertion to make, but all the BS justifications that one is not really disregarding those that would die as a result of resuming training are just that, BS.
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I bet it kills less people than the rattler schedule.
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It’s not even worth debating anymore. The majority of people that think a trainee sitting next to them is going to infect and kill them are probably heading straight to the packed bar as soon as they get off shift.
That's simply a deflection from the decision to or not to conduct training. The agency is making a determination that they have a responsibility to reduce the risk of spread at the workplace. Doing so protects everyone. Those that choose to social distance outside of work can be reasonably assured that they will avoid infection. Ones actions outside of work have no bearing on the decisions the agency makes regarding protections they put in place at work. I'm sure everyone understands this, but would rather put up straw man arguments for why they disagree with it rather than accepting it.
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That’s beyond the point. There are people that crusade against training here, on other forums, to their reps, to their co-workers, etc. using the argument of “mY hEaLtH wOuLd Be PuT aT rIsK” when in realty, they don’t get two shits about the virus or “safety” - they simply hate the concept of training and will do everything they can to fight against it.
32andBelow
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Uh we are still exposed to it at work constantly. Training or no training.
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This would make sense if I hadn’t been working as a D-Side since Thanksgiving. Good luck explaining that!
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