Training hold

[GulfCharlie]

But has NATCA missed a paycheck for you??

Looks back at December 2018...

 

[Billybob]

Biggy Smalls... Biggy Smalls... Biggy Smalls...

But has NATCA missed a paycheck for you??

NATCA has taken almost a paycheck out of my wages for dues... is that what you mean?

I love how NCEPT is simultaneous the worst thing ever because you'll never leave your fac but also the worst thing ever because year old CPCs are yeeting themselves to new facs.

Training someone and having them leave is a real kick in the knackers... sometimes the worst part of the job description

 

[Mike Kilo]

Training someone and having them leave is a real kick in the knackers... sometimes the worst part of the job description

I agree. But this happened well before NCEPT. People can play the priority game but other than that it’s almost business as usual. ATMs can rank whoever the fuck they want. Still a politics game after the releases are figured out.

 

[Billybob]

I agree. But this happened well before NCEPT. People can play the priority game but other than that it’s almost business as usual. ATMs can rank whoever the fuck they want. Still a politics game after the releases are figured out.

Any idea on how to play these so-called politics? Asking for a friend

 

[32andBelow]

Training someone and having them leave is a real kick in the knackers... sometimes the worst part of the job description

Def get mad at the employee for playing the game at faa and not the FAAs initial placement strategy

 

[Phillyman2633]

Def get mad at the employee for playing the game at faa and not the FAAs initial placement strategy

iF YoU DoNt lIkE YoUr pLaCeMeNt yOu cAn aLwAyS QuIt

 

[Mike Kilo]

Any idea on how to play these so-called politics? Asking for a friend

Easy, get your FacRep and Sup/ATM to lie out their ass for you. Fancy bottle of booze works well I hear ?.

 

[Spaceforce]

Easy, get your FacRep and Sup/ATM to lie out their ass for you. Fancy bottle of booze works well I hear ?.

Sad thing is... this is the most plausible case. mAkE It a $51 bOtTlE Of bOoZe. So wHeN YoU GeT CuCkEd, RePoRt tHeM To tHe aGeNcY FoR AcCePtInG A GiFt oF MoRe tHaN $50

 

[32andBelow]

iF YoU DoNt lIkE YoUr pLaCeMeNt yOu cAn aLwAyS QuIt

Faa placement people when they send you to Nantucket. gEt cHeCk oUt tHeN TrAnSfEr

 

[FightingIrish2012]

#justemailpaulandtrish

Also no current trainee has to be worried about being forced to work past 56, automation will take over by then.

 

[Mike Kilo]

#justemailpaulandtrish

Also no current trainee has to be worried about being forced to work past 56, automation will take over by then.

More like worried about being ALLOWED to work til 56 ?.

 

[BravesCountry16]

Somebody floated the idea of pay raises for affected trainees on the NATCA page and immediately got hit with yOu sHoUlD Be hApPy yOu'Re sTiLl gEtTiNg a pAyChEcK god i hate cpc's

Probably the same guy who told us to shut up, get on zoom and be happy.

Still don’t understand why we are using this Harvard map and not the individual state maps that the states are using.

 

[CF]

Probably the same guy who told us to shut up, get on zoom and be happy.

Still don’t understand why we are using this Harvard map and not the individual state maps that the states are using.

Hopefully since the federal government is actually collecting and publishing its own covid data now we will be able to come up with our own map or whatever system that works.

 

[NoSignal]

It’s right up there with the guy on Reddit from ZME saying how he conspired with others to wash trainees that so much as mention wanting to eventually transfer any where else.

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Is this recent or pre-COVID?

 

[GulfCharlie]

Probably the same guy who told us to shut up, get on zoom and be happy.

Still don’t understand why we are using this Harvard map and not the individual state maps that the states are using.

We must have listened to the same call last night...

Is this recent or pre-COVID?

Recent, like this past week. He ended up deleting everything and freaking out ?

 

[Robert_Boucher]

We must have listened to the same call last night...

Was it a regional call

 

[ClearanceClarence]

The agency really should launch an investigation into these rogue trainers that intentionally wash people out just because they say something they don’t like, believe something they don’t like, etc. Washing anyone out for any reason besides not being able to do the job is unacceptable. If any of the people that ZME asshole washed saw that post, they could sue to get their jobs back.

 

[GulfCharlie]

The agency really should launch an investigation into these rogue trainers that intentionally wash people out just because they say something they don’t like, believe something they don’t like, etc. Washing anyone out for any reason besides not being able to do the job is unacceptable. If any of the people that ZME asshole washed saw that post, they could sue to get their jobs back.

Agreed. While NCPET is a major issue and a contentious one at that, intentionally washing people out is wrong and wanting to move on with your life by transferring to another facility is not a crime. The stock answer "You said you were willing to work anywhere" with the response from another user on Reddit saying "It is not a life sentence" is very true. Quite a few people I know are looking to bail from the FAA and seek employment elsewhere especially in DOD because of: family, location, living conditions. Not everyone has a problem working anywhere but having an eventual exit or some sort of career progression is a nice goal.

 

[CaptainObvious]

Agreed. While NCPET is a major issue and a contentious one at that, washing people because they want to move on with their life is not a crime. The stock answer "You said you were willing to work anywhere" with the response from another user on Reddit saying "It is not a life sentence" is very true. Quite a few people I know are looking to bail from the FAA and seek employment elsewhere especially in DOD because of: family, location, living conditions. Not everyone has a problem working anywhere but having an eventual exit or some sort of career progression is a nice goal.

They’ve intentionally not labeled upward facility moves as career progression so they can suppress them however they want. Much like the military we’re all just a billet in the broader numbers so they don’t care how those are filled as long as the numbers meet what they’re looking for. It’s not and never will be about employee satisfaction because tHeRe aRe bIlLiOnS Of oThEr pEoPlE WhO WoUlD TaKe yOuR JoB In a hEaRtBeAt

 

[GulfCharlie]

They’ve intentionally not labeled upward facility moves as career progression so they can suppress them however they want. Much like the military we’re all just a billet in the broader numbers so they don’t care how those are filled as long as the numbers meet what they’re looking for. It’s not and never will be about employee satisfaction because tHeRe aRe bIlLiOnS Of oThEr pEoPlE WhO WoUlD TaKe yOuR JoB In a hEaRtBeAt

That is the sad truth to it and the moment you question this egregious system you are ostracized, at least unofficially, because you dared to question the order of things. Members of the NEB tout a litany of achievements that they have accomplished in these "unprecedented times" claiming no one could do better than they and that they know better. The Union on one hand "encourages" debate/discussion but with the other hammers you through petty means and character assassination.