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How did they get pressured? They aren’t even allowed to watch the news. Plus I’d be more scared of the cops retaliating than anyone else.
They werent allowed to watch the news or were told not to? what about their friends and family, they have their phones the entire time. You cant turn on your TV, phone or radio station without hearing someones opinion on it, Important distinction there. As if the year of burning and looting in goerge floyds name wasnt enough.
 
They werent allowed to watch the news or were told not to? what about their friends and family, they have their phones the entire time. You cant turn on your TV, phone or radio station without hearing someones opinion on it, Important distinction there. As if the year of burning and looting in goerge floyds name wasnt enough.
Nobody on any jury is allowed to watch the news or coverage of the case they are the jury for. For intimidation they’d have to be directly intimidated. Also why didn’t the defense off this as an issue? The MAGAs were so sure he was gonna get off they moved the goal posts to jury intimidation after he was canceled.
 
Nobody on any jury is allowed to watch the news or coverage of the case they are the jury for.
Not true, the jury was not sequestered, just ordered "not to watch the new"

For intimidation they’d have to be directly intimidated. Also why didn’t the defense off this as an issue?
The defense lawyer did, the judge stated that it was reckless for Maxine Waters to issue a public statement and asked the defense to issue formal proof after that days trail had concluded.
The MAGAs were so sure he was gonna get off they moved the goal posts to jury intimidation after he was canceled.
I'm sure this is it for some people, I think he was guilty of manslaughter, not depraved mind murder or felony murder.
 
Not true, the jury was not sequestered, just ordered "not to watch the new"


The defense lawyer did, the judge stated that it was reckless for Maxine Waters to issue a public statement and asked the defense to issue formal proof after that days trail had concluded.

I'm sure this is it for some people, I think he was guilty of manslaughter, not depraved mind murder or felony murder.
When someone tells you they can’t breath and you are strangling them for 10 minutes it’s murder. We all saw the tape. It’s not a they said they said

a juror caught watching the news or talking about the case would be immediately dismissed. That goes for any criminal trial. And there’s opinions on both sides of every high profile case. With the standard you lay out you could never had a high profile case ever.
 
When someone tells you they can’t breath and you are strangling them for 10 minutes it’s murder. We all saw the tape. It’s not a they said they said

a juror caught watching the news or talking about the case would be immediately dismissed. That goes for any criminal trial. And there’s opinions on both sides of every high profile case. With the standard you lay out you could never had a high profile case ever.
I literally said he was guilty of manslaughter, get off your high horse dude. People high on drugs will say anything to get police off of em. Was chouvin wrong to continue restraint that long? Yeah, that's why he got convicted. It's unfortunate that people are convicted in the media before their fair trail in court.
 
I literally said he was guilty of manslaughter, get off your high horse dude. People high on drugs will say anything to get police off of em. Was chouvin wrong to continue restraint that long? Yeah, that's why he got convicted. It's unfortunate that people are convicted in the media before their fair trail in court.
He was convicted in a fair trial in court. It doesn’t matter what our opinion was. The jury convicted him of second degree. UNINTENTIONAL Murder.
 
Not true, the jury was not sequestered, just ordered "not to watch the new"


The defense lawyer did, the judge stated that it was reckless for Maxine Waters to issue a public statement and asked the defense to issue formal proof after that days trail had concluded.

I'm sure this is it for some people, I think he was guilty of manslaughter, not depraved mind murder or felony murder.
All good points. How can the jury not have felt pressure to convict? They, their homes, and families would certainly have been targeted for violence if Chauvin was acquitted. The day before the case went to the jury, a defense witness, a WITNESS, had his home in California vandalized with pig’s blood and a pig’s head.
 
All good points. How can the jury not have felt pressure to convict? They, their homes, and families would certainly have been targeted for violence if Chauvin was acquitted. The day before the case went to the jury, a defense witness, a WITNESS, had his home in California vandalized with pig’s blood and a pig’s head.
This could be argued for any “controversial” high profile case though. Just scoff off whatever the jury decides as pressure.
 
How many "controversial" cases have had the effect that this one had before it even went to trial?
This isn’t the first riot linked to a court case. Trevon Martin, LA riots, etc etc.

what’s the point exactly? Like do you want the people to not have freedom of speech? Do you want zero coverage of a case while it’s underway? There was plenty of opposing coverage on fake news like OANN about it.
 
I’d also like to point out. The defense never admitted that he killed the guy which would have been better for manslaughter. They just offered up crackpot theories of alternative ways he died like carbon monoxide.
 
This isn’t the first riot linked to a court case. Trevon Martin, LA riots, etc etc.

what’s the point exactly? Like do you want the people to not have freedom of speech? Do you want zero coverage of a case while it’s underway? There was plenty of opposing coverage on fake news like OANN about it.
What does the coverage of the case or free speech have to do with it? I'm saying based on all the shit that happened after he died could greatly influence someone to vote a specific way regardless of how they truly felt. Trayvon Martin's death was nowhere near as controversial IMO.
 
What does the coverage of the case or free speech have to do with it? I'm saying based on all the shit that happened after he died could greatly influence someone to vote a specific way regardless of how they truly felt. Trayvon Martin's death was nowhere near as controversial IMO.
That’s why there was a jury selection process and the jurors aren’t allowed to watch the news.

My point is what do you recommend as a solution to your concerns
 
That’s why there was a jury selection process and the jurors aren’t allowed to watch the news.

My point is what do you recommend as a solution to your concerns
They would have had to find someone who hasn't watched the news for the past year for that to solve anything. I have no concerns, I was simply stating how they could have made a decision solely based on being concerned about their identity being known to the public and the backlash they could receive based on the alternate verdict.
 
They would have had to find someone who hasn't watched the news for the past year for that to solve anything. I have no concerns, I was simply stating how they could have made a decision solely based on being concerned about their identity being known to the public and the backlash they could receive based on the alternate verdict.
There’s a lot of people they don’t watch the news ever. I know at least a couple controllers that would have no clue about. Don’t vote. Don’t do literally anything with current events
 
The point of jury selection isn't to find people that have never heard the news, it's to find people of reasonable mind that are able to interpret and extrapolate the facts and arguments of the case and render a verdict. Both defense and prosecution have the ability to disqualify plenty of potential jury members during the jury selection process. If either side, or even the judge, feel the pool of potential jurors is not sufficient, they can bring in additional pools to select from or request a change of venue to a different location entirely.
 
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The point of jury selection isn't to find people that have never heard the news, it's to find people of reasonable mind that are able to interpret and extrapolate the facts and arguments of the case and render a verdict. Both defense and prosecution have the ability to disqualify plenty of potential jury members during jury the selection process. If either side, or even the judge, feel the pool of potential jurors is not sufficient, they can bring in additional pools to select from or request a change of venue to a different location entirely.
Nope. Any outcome I disagree with means the jury was pressured!
 
The point of jury selection isn't to find people that have never heard the news, it's to find people of reasonable mind that are able to interpret and extrapolate the facts and arguments of the case and render a verdict. Both defense and prosecution have the ability to disqualify plenty of potential jury members during the jury selection process. If either side, or even the judge, feel the pool of potential jurors is not sufficient, they can bring in additional pools to select from or request a change of venue to a different location entirely.
Nah they disqualified anyone that knew anything about it. They wouldn’t even let the prosecution tell the jurors that the dude got fired after the murder.
 
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