MMPI-2 Tier 2 Process

11/4/22 - MMPI
11/23/22 - Informed Tier 2
01/17/23 - File forwarded to Tier 2 Team
03/6/23 - Requested More medical records (not military)
03/07/23 - File forwarded for coordination to schedule an appointment with Tier 2 provider
6/14/24 - Tier 2 Provider Selected
6/18/24 - Appointment Scheduled for August
8/10/24 - Tier 2 Appointment complete, write up to take 2 weeks
9/12/24 - Case Reviewed by Psychologist, Recommendation sent to Program Analyst
 
11/4/22 - MMPI
11/23/22 - Informed Tier 2
01/17/23 - File forwarded to Tier 2 Team
03/6/23 - Requested More medical records (not military)
03/07/23 - File forwarded for coordination to schedule an appointment with Tier 2 provider
6/14/24 - Tier 2 Provider Selected
6/18/24 - Appointment Scheduled for August
8/10/24 - Tier 2 Appointment complete, write up to take 2 weeks
9/12/24 - Case Reviewed by Psychologist, Recommendation sent to Program Analyst
9/13/24 - Cleared Tier 2, Physical Scheduled
9/16/24 - Drug Refresh Scheduled
 
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GulfCharlie said:
11/4/22 - MMPI
11/23/22 - Informed Tier 2
01/17/23 - File forwarded to Tier 2 Team
03/6/23 - Requested More medical records (not military)
03/07/23 - File forwarded for coordination to schedule an appointment with Tier 2 provider
6/14/24 - Tier 2 Provider Selected
6/18/24 - Appointment Scheduled for August
8/10/24 - Tier 2 Appointment complete, write up to take 2 weeks
9/12/24 - Case Reviewed by Psychologist, Recommendation sent to Program Analyst
9/13 - Cleared Tier 2, Physical Scheduled
9/16 - Drug Refresh Scheduled
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Hell yeah man things are moving along. I can see a list right around the corner!
 
GulfCharlie said:
11/4/22 - MMPI
11/23/22 - Informed Tier 2
01/17/23 - File forwarded to Tier 2 Team
03/6/23 - Requested More medical records (not military)
03/07/23 - File forwarded for coordination to schedule an appointment with Tier 2 provider
6/14/24 - Tier 2 Provider Selected
6/18/24 - Appointment Scheduled for August
8/10/24 - Tier 2 Appointment complete, write up to take 2 weeks
9/12/24 - Case Reviewed by Psychologist, Recommendation sent to Program Analyst
9/13 - Cleared Tier 2, Physical Scheduled
9/16 - Drug Refresh Scheduled
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That was a quick turnaround after your evaluation. Congrats!
 
Haven't posted in 2 years, but I just found this tab buried in some bookmarks folder I thought I deleted a long time ago. For any prospective Tier 2 recipients, here is my story. I condensed a lot of the details for readability and also because I know most of you are autistic r*tards. You're welcome. Proceed with caution:

I was a controller for 6 years in the USAF, got out, and applied to the FAA while working at a local contract tower near me (KIWA 💀, mistake #1). At some point here I was notified that I had been Tier 2'd, which to me meant a lot of waiting. I then decided I was tired of working my ass off for dog shit pay and left for overseas work while the Tier 2 process played itself out. Finally, the day I was waiting for had come; my Tier 2 psych appointment. I flew back to the United States from the Middle East, had a wonderful Tier 2 appointment and was back into another contract tower stateside while I waited out the last few months of the Tier 2 process.

A couple months later, I came home one random day after a day shift to see a letter in the mail from the FAA. I excitedly opened up the letter, only to find out that my Class 2 was being rescinded, with a laundry list of mental issues (I have no history of any mental illnesses, depression, etc., not even a VA rating at this time) noted as the reasoning. I spent the next week on the phone and email, calling the regional flight surgeon and every Tom, Dick, and Harry that could give me answers as to what was going on.

After calling endlessly with my career on the line, a flight surgeon high up in the chain let me know the lady who did my Tier 2 psych appointment tore me to shreds (mistake #2, telling the truth), for reasons unbeknownst to me. The guy was actually super understanding and seemed to be on my side, noting that these psychiatrists have biases and there were avenues I could pursue to rectify my situation.

I was promptly let go from my RVA contract job once I let my ATM know what had happened (at least she cried a little when she fired me 🥲). From that point, there were 2 options:

1. Fight the diagnosis on my own dime and time, which was roughly $10k minimum for one reexam. The Flight Surgeon recommended 2 reexams from separate psychiatrists because all 3 examinations, including the bad one, go into a folder and are sent to the head medical flight surgeon office in DC as a package. The package is then reviewed by the board, and if they decide the original "diagnosis" based on the new evidence was bullsh*t, then I can possibly get my Class 2 back (its a judgement call and he couldn't guarantee anything). So about 20k and at least another year of waiting with no job, with no guarantee. If the overturn was successful, I would then restart the Tier 2 process like any other applicant.

2. Go do something else

I chose #2. 🙂
 
icecreambaby said:
Haven't posted in 2 years, but I just found this tab buried in some bookmarks folder I thought I deleted a long time ago. For any prospective Tier 2 recipients, here is my story. I condensed a lot of the details for readability and also because I know most of you are autistic r*tards. You're welcome. Proceed with caution:

I was a controller for 6 years in the USAF, got out, and applied to the FAA while working at a local contract tower near me (KIWA 💀, mistake #1). At some point here I was notified that I had been Tier 2'd, which to me meant a lot of waiting. I then decided I was tired of working my ass off for dog shit pay and left for overseas work while the Tier 2 process played itself out. Finally, the day I was waiting for had come; my Tier 2 psych appointment. I flew back to the United States from the Middle East, had a wonderful Tier 2 appointment and was back into another contract tower stateside while I waited out the last few months of the Tier 2 process.

A couple months later, I came home one random day after a day shift to see a letter in the mail from the FAA. I excitedly opened up the letter, only to find out that my Class 2 was being rescinded, with a laundry list of mental issues (I have no history of any mental illnesses, depression, etc., not even a VA rating at this time) noted as the reasoning. I spent the next week on the phone and email, calling the regional flight surgeon and every Tom, Dick, and Harry that could give me answers as to what was going on.

After calling endlessly with my career on the line, a flight surgeon high up in the chain let me know the lady who did my Tier 2 psych appointment tore me to shreds (mistake #2, telling the truth), for reasons unbeknownst to me. The guy was actually super understanding and seemed to be on my side, noting that these psychiatrists have biases and there were avenues I could pursue to rectify my situation.

I was promptly let go from my RVA contract job once I let my ATM know what had happened (at least she cried a little when she fired me 🥲). From that point, there were 2 options:

1. Fight the diagnosis on my own dime and time, which was roughly $10k minimum for one reexam. The Flight Surgeon recommended 2 reexams from separate psychiatrists because all 3 examinations, including the bad one, go into a folder and are sent to the head medical flight surgeon office in DC as a package. The package is then reviewed by the board, and if they decide the original "diagnosis" based on the new evidence was bullsh*t, then I can possibly get my Class 2 back (its a judgement call and he couldn't guarantee anything). So about 20k and at least another year of waiting with no job, with no guarantee. If the overturn was successful, I would then restart the Tier 2 process like any other applicant.

2. Go do something else

I chose #2. 🙂
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That is brutal to hear, hopefully you've landed ok. I was in a similar situation about 15 years ago. Prior Mil Controller, was working contract after getting out. I didn't pass the MMPI, did TIER 2, didn't pass. I appealed it, cost about $2,500. By dumb luck I hired a really good psychiatrists, she gave me a full day of testing, then concluded I was perfectly normal and pushed back on everything the TIER 2 doctor had said. Luckily I never had my CLASS II rescinded. I never had to to redo the MMPI after I my original one had "timed out", although they tried, never had to restart the TIER 2, just had to do a urinalysis refresh.

I don't understand how they can justify taking your CLASS II if you've never had a history of mental health issues. They should at least allow for an appeal, and only then consider rescinding a CLASS II if your appeal doctor diagnosis you with something.

Through my appeal doctor, I found out I had passed the TIER 2 psych tests, but the TIER 2 doctor had not recommended me for employment. They highlighted certain scales on the tests that were elevated or lower than normal and tried to use that against me for their decision. Even though the scales were within range within the final outcome of the test.
 
Just got a email to fill out 8500-8 Physical Exam Form & the Current Residency.

After receiving this email, what is the next step and about how long did you wait for the next step. Don’t know where this is in the Tier 2 Process.
 
Christian R. said:
Just got a email to fill out 8500-8 Physical Exam Form & the Current Residency.

After receiving this email, what is the next step and about how long did you wait for the next step. Don’t know where this is in the Tier 2 Process.
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Means they'll start looking for a psychiatrist in your area, could take a month to 6 months to hear something back
 
Just got my Tier 2 Psychological Authorization Release Form today!!

Any luck with changing the location of the Tier 2 Psychologist Appointment? The one I’m currently assigned to is inconvenient for me.
 
Christian R. said:
Just got my Tier 2 Psychological Authorization Release Form today!!

Any luck with changing the location of the Tier 2 Psychologist Appointment? The one I’m currently assigned to is inconvenient for me.
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There's only so many Psychiatrists that the FAA has contracted out to, Hope usually appoints one closest to you. If you already signed and turned in the notary form then chances are unlikely since that notary/release records is for that intended Doctor.
 
Scheduled my Tier 2 Evaluation for 5/10/2025 (Saturday)

Any advice on what to expect? Psychologist in the email said it could take 5 hours for the entire Evaluation.
 

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