They certify them anyway. And we pay the price for it
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They certify them anyway. And we pay the price for it
Jamaal has made it insanely hard to wash people with the NTI and training order changes. Jamaal and Nick are a cancer for this career field.
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CIP needs to be adjusted for those three. It’s crazy a couple miles away people are getting 7% more.I'll be your huckleberry... not sure why ONT, CNO and PSP aren't part of the LA area facilities. It's not any cheaper trying to survive on AG pay at these facilities.
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CIP is a scam and should go away when we get are yuge raiseCIP needs to be adjusted for those three. It’s crazy a couple miles away people are getting 7% more.
Wow. There are lots of places on that list I know current CPCs have been or would like to get to but due to our broken ERR system can't. Now they are giving those places to new hires w/ an "award".
If I wasn't already, I would be even more pissed at the Union. The Union is lucky that most of the workforce is a bunch of gen Z who don't care about shit.
If I wasn't already, I would be even more pissed at the Union. The Union is lucky that most of the workforce is a bunch of gen Z who don't care about shit.
Wow. There are lots of places on that list I know current CPCs have been or would like to get to but due to our broken ERR system can't. Now they are giving those places to new hires w/ an "award".
If I wasn't already, I would be even more pissed at the Union. The Union is lucky that most of the workforce is a bunch of gen Z who don't care about shit.
They are blatantly and proudly prioritizing potential union members over current ones, it should be absolutely sickening to anyone paying dues
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They are just agreeing to every idea the FAA has. Duffy has been talking about keeping boomers for 2 months nowThey are blatantly and proudly prioritizing potential union members over current ones, it should be absolutely sickening to anyone paying dues
It’s only 4 days in and we already have a lock for May’s dumbest post. Washouts have gone through the roof. Maybe your facility sucks at it.Jamaal has made it insanely hard to wash people with the NTI and training order changes. Jamaal and Nick are a cancer for this career field.
You mean someone said something that’s not actually based in any factual data ? Go figureIt’s only 4 days in and we already have a lock for May’s dumbest post. Washouts have gone through the roof. Maybe your facility sucks at it.
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You're a piece of shit.You mean someone said something that’s not actually based in any factual data ? Go figure
It's ok. I know you support Nick and Jamaal. You defended them when I complained about the yacht.It’s only 4 days in and we already have a lock for May’s dumbest post. Washouts have gone through the roof. Maybe your facility sucks at it.
You're part of the problem.
July 2019 shows 80.6% success rate (this is when the NTI started)
May 2025 shows 81.2% success rate.
2022 shows some months of 82% success rate
In 2016, we had a 76% success rate across the NAS.
Now I know I'm not a math wiz but seems like more people are checking out and not being washed out but maybe those success rate numbers are fake news.
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The NTI is one of the better things NATCA/ the FAA has done. We def have washed more people out tho but I have no clue systemwide.
The NTI is one of the better things NATCA/ the FAA has done. We def have washed more people out tho but I have no clue systemwide.
NCEPT data available on FAA computers or NATCA website has a column showing success rates. It's up across the NAS.
Personally I find NTI to be awful and just one of the many things NATCA has failed at. It's being used by management to force CPCs to train nonstop even on dead traffic. Causing trainer burn out all to pad ATM and supervisor resumes. You can say this isn't true but I've seen ATMs point out how other facilities were doing across the district and trying to pump numbers to look better. Going so far as posting it in break rooms with the facility highlighted and trying to shame us.
I bet most facilities are on 6 day work weeks because of the NTI. Because my current and past facility sure weren't until it got initiated.
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Having a trainee train at least 12-15 hours a week is absolutely nothing. It’s crazy there were facilities not meeting it before it came out.NCEPT data available on FAA computers or NATCA website has a column showing success rates. It's up across the NAS.
Personally I find NTI to be awful and just one of the many things NATCA has failed at. It's being used by management to force CPCs to train nonstop even on dead traffic. Causing trainer burn out all to pad ATM and supervisor resumes. You can say this isn't true but I've seen ATMs point out how other facilities were doing across the district and trying to pump numbers to look better. Going so far as posting it in break rooms with the facility highlighted and trying to shame us.
I bet most facilities are on 6 day work weeks because of the NTI. Because my current and past facility sure weren't until it got initiated.
Cry me a river loserYou're a piece of shit.
buffalochickenqueefadilla
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No, youCry me a river loser
Aren’t you going to Australia ? ✌🏻No, you
buffalochickenqueefadilla
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No, you
Aren't you sad at the end of the day realize you're lonely and no one likes you? That your only contribution to these threads is trolling. That your only source of joy is being an insect in other people's lives?Aren’t you going to Australia ? ✌🏻
🤣 I guess even Australia won’t pick you upAren't you sad at the end of the day realize you're lonely and no one likes you? That your only contribution to these threads is trolling. That your only source of joy is being an insect in other people's lives?
buffalochickenqueefadilla
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I guess i hit a soft spot with that one. Sorry bud. There's always grindr🤣 I guess even Australia won’t pick you up
