I don’t think Gen Z cares yet because most are training or recent CPCs. It won’t take them long to realize they aren’t getting paid enough. Especially when all their friends are working remote and have similar pay.
None of my friends make close to what I make, the only ones who make more than me are surgeons and doctors. The median wage in this country is still like 45k, I'm not sure where people think this is some dead end job. So many people here have been in this job so long that you are entirely out of touch with the real world.
I am not one of those. Unless you are at a level 11-12, there are remote jobs now on par with our pay.
The number of lives at stake in the burger industry is of course a lot more than in ATC, and one of the reasons that I strongly advocate that we should make less (and work more). The guilt of my high pay in my luxurious 1-bath rental is too much to bear.
Why aren't you working in one of the remote jobs ?
Because I still enjoy this job. If the pay continues to dwindle then I’ll bounce. But I’ll never say no to a better opportunity.
People in this career are so out of touch it's fucking insane lmao
I'm curious as to what you think we should be making.
Less, and they don't need to stipulate. The FBO manager, various airport personnel, two of my friends who work at a power plant, etc., all make more than me with significantly improved quality of life, but I am out of touch. We should advocate for pay reductions, if anything. I would say that max pay for ATC should be 200K, and that's on introduced 7s, with time off being only vacation.
You don’t even know what creates that data. You’re just talking out of your ass. I’m not even defending the NTI. Just calling you out for making shit up
The career just hasn’t kept up with inflation. At all. If you made $100,000 in 2005 you were solidly upper middle class almost anywhere. Now $100,000 in most cities is barely enough to scrape by. And there’s still plenty of controllers that don’t make six figures. There’s probably some level 4-5’s out there that literally pay less than some fast food jobs.
At least 100k at level 4 and 225k at a 12
“People have it worse so you’re insane to ask for better.”
When have I ever said we don't deserve more money, we can both deserve more money and be wildly out of touch what the average person goes through. I know a lot of people here don't give a fuck about those average people, and they will say the same thing when it comes to us not getting a raise.
What does someone else working in a different job have to do with my pay raise?
what does me telling people they are out of touch with the rest of society have to do with a pay raise
Well said. Should’ve capitalized on the attention we got from both sides of the aisle. Both sides agree our career field is over worked and under staffed.
