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[Acquired Taste]

Lucky for you all. However I’m seeking info on facilities that were able to adjust numbers after the changes were posted.

The number is the number. Is was independently validated, after all. If you don’t like it, you should've run for rep 3 years ago according to Move78

But for real, the new numbers at a lot of places are greatly exaggerated as to what is needed. The cic adjustment for some facilities is bullshit. I think a much better methodology to determine the target numbers would have been to take the number of shifts required to run the facility for the day, double it and that's the new target. For example, my last tower wanted 7 bodies on the day shift, 8 on the night shift, and 2 on the mid. Total of 17 shifts for day x 2 = 34. A target of 34 would have been nice and comfortable. Fully staffed would be fat, 85% would be basically the min to get by with no ot.

For 10 hour shifts on the bws, those count as 1.25 shifts. So at my old up/down, we were open 18 hours a day so 10 hr lines just worked a lot better. Typically we'd have two 10 hr lines and an 8 hr shift on both the day and night. 6 bodies for the day but count it as 7 shifts (accounting for 1.25 x 4 for the 10s) and double it to get a 14 target. Once again, this would have been an ideal target where 14 was fat staffed with spot leave available all the time, 85% would be min staffing for no scheduled ot.

 

[32andBelow]

You obviously don’t know wtf you’re talking about. +1 was agreed upon by rep and mgr. additional +3 being tacked on top, was not agreed upon.

The number is the number. Is was independently validated, after all. If you don’t like it, you should've run for rep 3 years ago according to Move78

But for real, the new numbers at a lot of places are greatly exaggerated as to what is needed. The cic adjustment for some facilities is bullshit. I think a much better methodology to determine the target numbers would have been to take the number of shifts required to run the facility for the day, double it and that's the new target. For example, my last tower wanted 7 bodies on the day shift, 8 on the night shift, and 2 on the mid. Total of 17 shifts for day x 2 = 34. A target of 34 would have been nice and comfortable. Fully staffed would be fat, 85% would be basically the min to get by with no ot.

For 10 hour shifts on the bws, those count as 1.25 shifts. So at my old up/down, we were open 18 hours a day so 10 hr lines just worked a lot better. Typically we'd have two 10 hr lines and an 8 hr shift on both the day and night. 6 bodies for the day but count it as 7 shifts (accounting for 1.25 x 4 for the 10s) and double it to get a 14 target. Once again, this would have been an ideal target where 14 was fat staffed with spot leave available all the time, 85% would be min staffing for no scheduled ot.

validated by who?

 

[Acquired Taste]

validated by who?

MITRE I believe. Or some other consulting company that got paid to rubber stamp their approval on there. MITRE definitely sounds familiar though

 

[32andBelow]

MITRE I believe. Or some other consulting company that got paid to rubber stamp their approval on there. MITRE definitely sounds familiar though

People going to learn the different hell that awaits working at a center once it gets above 80% staffing. Then comes the TOP crusades.

 

[Nothanks]

People going to learn the different hell that awaits working at a center once it gets above 80% staffing. Then comes the TOP crusades.

That’s such an easy thing to combat. Working 6 days a week with no end in sight. Is not

 

[RadarRick]

People going to learn the different hell that awaits working at a center once it gets above 80% staffing. Then comes the TOP crusades.

Just wait until you get a moron FLM trying to move up the ladder that is worried about TOP on a shift where over half the bodies there are on OT.

You dont get into management in the FAA, and you definitely dont move up within management ranks, by being smart.

 

[32andBelow]

That’s such an easy thing to combat. Working 6 days a week with no end in sight. Is not

It’s not easy to combat. Raising the number across the board wasn’t the issue. We weren’t at the old number at these places most of the time

 

[Nothanks]

It’s not easy to combat. Raising the number across the board wasn’t the issue. We weren’t at the old number at these places most of the time

I don’t know about raising numbers. I was just speaking to combating top conversations. There are ways. I’m not going to bring them up here sorry.

 

[Shikaka]

Can someone tell my.management their not supposed to be TOP whores until we get good staffing? 60ish% and max TOP is killing my mojo

 

[32andBelow]

I don’t know about raising numbers. I was just speaking to combating top conversations. There are ways. I’m not going to bring them up here sorry.

Well tell my rep cus he just says they can assign work