The FAA staffing problem that NO ONE is talking about

I thought she was nuts but I guess AOC was right, “the national debt doesn’t matter because you can always just print more money”.

funny, your boy Trump said the same thing in 2016. Guess he was ahead of the game.

 
At this rate, just pay off all credit card debt, auto loan debt, and student loan debt $3.3T total for all). MUCH better use of funds than this BS stimulus stuff.

I mean if i wasnt paying $700 a month to students loans that money would definitely be put to better use in the economy so i dont disagree. I mean just taking the interest off and making them 0% would allow me to pay them off fairly quick.
 
At this rate, just pay off all credit card debt, auto loan debt, and student loan debt $3.3T total for all). MUCH better use of funds than this BS stimulus stuff.
Just playing devils advocate: Not everyone has debit, so that really wouldn't benefit everyone who is "hurting" because of the coronavirus. Don't get me wrong, I would love for my student loans to be forgiven and everyone else's, but then you could argue you are punishing the people who saved and were able to pay for college out of pocket. I just think the only way to do it fairly is with the stimulus checks.
 
Just playing devils advocate: Not everyone has debit, so that really wouldn't benefit everyone who is "hurting" because of the coronavirus. Don't get me wrong, I would love for my student loans to be forgiven and everyone else's, but then you could argue you are punishing the people who saved and were able to pay for college out of pocket. I just think the only way to do it fairly is with the stimulus checks.

The majority of people in atc didnt get a stimulus check because we make too much. The same could be said for the person that paid for college out of pocket and they make a decent living now because they went to school and they got nothing, so you could say they are being punished too.
 
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No source to verify, I saw a poll that something like 99% of this post is a load of shit. Also the vaccine isn't going to stop you from getting the beer virus, hence why there's an annual flu vaccine but people still get the flu. Figger it out.



What a hot fuckin take.


Ok boomer please regale us of how traffic was in the old days pre-whatever the fuck.


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You say "based on zero evidence"? After the great plague of 1918 commercial aviation took decades to come around and this could be just as bad, check yourself.
 
The majority of people in atc didnt get a stimulus check because we make too much. The same could be said for the person that paid for college out of pocket and they make a decent living now because they went to school and they got nothing, so you could say they are being punished too.
Truth, I realize there's holes in the logic. I just know that my boyfriend never had loans because his family had a dairy farm and they were able to pay for it out of pocket (He payed it off in manual labor to his parents, lol)

Edit: Although I will edit to add, did you need a stimulus check when you are still getting a pay check?
 
Just playing devils advocate: Not everyone has debit, so that really wouldn't benefit everyone who is "hurting" because of the coronavirus. Don't get me wrong, I would love for my student loans to be forgiven and everyone else's, but then you could argue you are punishing the people who saved and were able to pay for college out of pocket. I just think the only way to do it fairly is with the stimulus checks.
Most people don’t have corporations but we give them shit all the time.
 
Truth, I realize there's holes in the logic. I just know that my boyfriend never had loans because his family had a dairy farm and they were able to pay for it out of pocket (He payed it off in manual labor to his parents, lol)

Edit: Although I will edit to add, did you need a stimulus check when you are still getting a pay check?

There are plenty of people that got a stimulus check while still getting a pay check so i dont understand your logic.
 
I would agree with OP that air traffic will be very slow to recover (5+ years). Some more issues that weren't mentioned:

1. With the potential for lasting new procedures and screenings at airports (e.g. temp checks, travel history, social history), at both the departure and arrival airport, air travel will become more of a pain than ever before, reducing demand.

2. Many businesses are now seeing that virtual meetings can work for them, and they won't have to keep flying employees all over.

3. Ongoing uncertainty about restrictions and quarantines. I've been wanting to book a family trip to Europe in the fall, but I'm not sure if it will even be possible with the likelihood of another resurgence and more travel restrictions. It's not worth risking booking the flights and hotels at this point.

4. Even if demand magically comes back in a year or two, the supply will not be there. Airlines are now permanently retiring airplane fleets, planning to lay off employees, halting training, and cancelling future airplane purchases. This trickles all the way through the manufacturers too. It will take years for the supply chain to recover and to train new employees.
 
I would agree with OP that air traffic will be very slow to recover (5+ years). Some more issues that weren't mentioned:

1. With the potential for lasting new procedures and screenings at airports (e.g. temp checks, travel history, social history), at both the departure and arrival airport, air travel will become more of a pain than ever before, reducing demand.

2. Many businesses are now seeing that virtual meetings can work for them, and they won't have to keep flying employees all over.

3. Ongoing uncertainty about restrictions and quarantines. I've been wanting to book a family trip to Europe in the fall, but I'm not sure if it will even be possible with the likelihood of another resurgence and more travel restrictions. It's not worth risking booking the flights and hotels at this point.

4. Even if demand magically comes back in a year or two, the supply will not be there. Airlines are now permanently retiring airplane fleets, planning to lay off employees, halting training, and cancelling future airplane purchases. This trickles all the way through the manufacturers too. It will take years for the supply chain to recover and to train new employees.

nice..the only guy who agrees made his account an hour ago. That looks good lol
 
All of these claims are made without addressing what the size of these demographics are.
How many companies are already flying people for what could be done on skype? How many private jets are going to be lost? How many people that lost their jobs in primarily low income fields are cancelling their cross-country flights?
I’m not saying that stuff hasn’t happened, I just think it’s extreme to think you’ve lost 10 years of traffic over it.
 
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