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Could you imagine a large portion of loans being defaulted in causing a financial meltdown? oh wait, we already had one of those. The only real question is when to move your funds to G.
Nah I got burned once trying to play the G fund game. Lost about $10k trying to time my buy in. I got 20 years to go til MRA so I'll just ride out whatever and change my strategy up in 10 or so years. I'm like 50% C, 30% S, 20% I
 
This thread is so exhausting. Literally every problem we have today in society is caused by government intervention in free markets. Even the hardcore liberals on here acknowledge that government is corrupt as fuck. The private sector working in collaboration with government is the most detrimental to general outcomes of the common man, and yet the only solution you guys have is that we should turn over 100% of the power to the government to centrally plan your life as if some bureaucrat sitting behind his government desk knows what's best for you in your life. Get it through your thick skull that the government is not your friend. Government can't make your life better by stealing from someone else and giving it to you. All they can do is reallocate scarce resources in the least efficient way they can come up with while squandering the rest with corruption and special favors.
If only this line of reasoning applied to big business and the financial sector as well as the little guy.

Fuck my neighbor I don't give a shit if he can't keep a roof over his head, gotta make sure the Wallstreet execs get their quarterly bonus though.
Fuck my neighbor and the Wallstreet exec. If you act irresponsibly, you pay the price no matter who you are. That's my motto. Unfortunately, the government has the power that they shouldn't have to bailout that wallstreet exec when they fuck up. My solution is take away all the power so no one gets special favors. Your solution is give the government complete control..... except for guns for some reason. I find it very interesting that you feel so strongly about keeping your guns when you accept the government as your savior. They will keep you safe bro, just hand over the guns and everything will be just fine.
 
This thread is so exhausting. Literally every problem we have today in society is caused by government intervention in free markets. Even the hardcore liberals on here acknowledge that government is corrupt as fuck. The private sector working in collaboration with government is the most detrimental to general outcomes of the common man, and yet the only solution you guys have is that we should turn over 100% of the power to the government to centrally plan your life as if some bureaucrat sitting behind his government desk knows what's best for you in your life. Get it through your thick skull that the government is not your friend. Government can't make your life better by stealing from someone else and giving it to you. All they can do is reallocate scarce resources in the least efficient way they can come up with while squandering the rest with corruption and special favors.

Fuck my neighbor and the Wallstreet exec. If you act irresponsibly, you pay the price no matter who you are. That's my motto. Unfortunately, the government has the power that they shouldn't have to bailout that wallstreet exec when they fuck up. My solution is take away all the power so no one gets special favors. Your solution is give the government complete control..... except for guns for some reason. I find it very interesting that you feel so strongly about keeping your guns when you accept the government as your savior. They will keep you safe bro, just hand over the guns and everything will be just fine.
Imagine talking about people having thick skulls and not being able to differentiate between "socialist" policies and agendas available to citizens in most developed first world countries and authoritative communism, USSR style.

Just imagine.

I said nothing about accepting the government as my lord and savior, fixer of all ailments, just that they could be doing a hell of a lot better for more of the citizenry and shocker, at the same time not trampling on the rights and freedoms we currently enjoy. How is that a hard concept Mr big brain?

I'm for everything currently in the bill of rights. Those should never, ever change.
 
Imagine talking about people having thick skulls and not being able to differentiate between "socialist" policies and agendas available to citizens in most developed first world countries and authoritative communism, USSR style.

Just imagine.

I said nothing about accepting the government as my lord and savior, fixer of all ailments, just that they could be doing a hell of a lot better for more of the citizenry and shocker, at the same time not trampling on the rights and freedoms we currently enjoy. How is that a hard concept Mr big brain?

I'm for everything currently in the bill of rights. Those should never, ever change.

no! It’s all or nothing! 100% free market capitalism only the strong survive or 100% authoritarian dictatorship planned economy! There’s no middle ground! There’s no nuance! Get with the times!
 
Imagine talking about people having thick skulls and not being able to differentiate between "socialist" policies and agendas available to citizens in most developed first world countries and authoritative communism, USSR style.

Just imagine.

I said nothing about accepting the government as my lord and savior, fixer of all ailments, just that they could be doing a hell of a lot better for more of the citizenry and shocker, at the same time not trampling on the rights and freedoms we currently enjoy. How is that a hard concept Mr big brain?

I'm for everything currently in the bill of rights. Those should never, ever change.
I recall reading a reddit thread back asking commenters what country they'd like to be reborn in if they had a choice. The majority was.... not the US lol. aka if you had no control over your upbringing (as most people do) then you'd probably want to live in a country with policies that support the population, thus some countries in Europe. Or be super filthy rich in Monaco.

 
Imagine talking about people having thick skulls and not being able to differentiate between "socialist" policies and agendas available to citizens in most developed first world countries and authoritative communism, USSR style.

Just imagine.

I said nothing about accepting the government as my lord and savior, fixer of all ailments, just that they could be doing a hell of a lot better for more of the citizenry and shocker, at the same time not trampling on the rights and freedoms we currently enjoy. How is that a hard concept Mr big brain?
Answer this one for me... how do we pay for this utopia? The simple answer is we can't. There is no possible way to generate enough tax revenue to fund all these dreams. Hell, we already put $1 trillion a year on the government credit card on for all the wonderful "benefits" we currently enjoy. This year it'll probably be $5 trillion and the economy will still be structurally damaged beyond repair to the point of no return, with nothing to show for the $5 trillion spent. Their solution will just be to give us even more government relief. Pretty soon, we'll be talking about real money. It's only a matter a time before the USD loses reserve currency status and the dollar falls through the floor and we're all living in the same socialist hell that many have lived before us. We are in such a position of weakness economically and we haven't even began to implement the socialist policies you advocate for. So please, do enlighten me on how all of it will be paid for because my big brain must've fucked up the simple math that I can't believe no one has ever been able to figure out before.
 
Answer this one for me... how do we pay for this utopia? The simple answer is we can't. There is no possible way to generate enough tax revenue to fund all these dreams. Hell, we already put $1 trillion a year on the government credit card on for all the wonderful "benefits" we currently enjoy. This year it'll probably be $5 trillion and the economy will still be structurally damaged beyond repair to the point of no return, with nothing to show for the $5 trillion spent. Their solution will just be to give us even more government relief. Pretty soon, we'll be talking about real money. It's only a matter a time before the USD loses reserve currency status and the dollar falls through the floor and we're all living in the same socialist hell that many have lived before us. We are in such a position of weakness economically and we haven't even began to implement the socialist policies you advocate for. So please, do enlighten me on how all of it will be paid for because my big brain must've fucked up the simple math that I can't believe no one has ever been able to figure out before.
You must have missed the article I posted in this thread earlier about billionaires increasing their wealth by a quarter to the tune of 10.8 trillion or so in the last 6 months.

That, and end all these multidecade foreign entaglements "spreading democracy" and throwing money away to the military industrial complex.

Sounds like a reasonable start to me.

I recall reading a reddit thread back asking commenters what country they'd like to be reborn in if they had a choice. The majority was.... not the US lol. aka if you had no control over your upbringing (as most people do) then you'd probably want to live in a country with policies that support the population, thus some countries in Europe. Or be super filthy rich in Monaco.

I love my country. There's very few places I'd rather live, and even if I did leave, I'd never renounce my citizenship. I just think we can do so much better than we are now.
 
You must have missed the article I posted in this thread earlier about billionaires increasing their wealth by a quarter to the tune of 10.8 trillion or so in the last 6 months.

That, and end all these multidecade foreign entaglements "spreading democracy" and throwing money away to the military industrial complex.

Sounds like a reasonable start to me.
Seems reasonable as fuck. The Fed is to blame for reinflating the stock market to save your dad's 401k so he doesn't have to move in with you. The Fed is literally junk bonds to keep this whole house of cards from collapsing but they're only prolonging the inevitable. So if you want to blame the rich for getting richer, start your search there. I also agree, the military budget is completely out of hand and needs to be cut down.

So go ahead, let's cut down the military budget to half and let's say you are able to 100% of every U.S. billionaires wealth (you can't because it's not liquid and the value is based on the current share price of the last trade of their companies but let's just pretend you can because you live in fairy land anyways.) I'm going to go out on a generous assumption limb and say maybe 70% of that 10.2 Trillion is US billionaries. That funds all your promises for 2 years.... and then what happens? You've got no more billionaires to tax and the game ends. That's my rough math but once again, I'd love for you to break it down. Give me some numbers because I still can't figure out how it's going to work even when I grossly exaggerate the revenue that would be needed to fund these pipe dreams.

I love my country. There's very few places I'd rather live, and even if I did leave, I'd never renounce my citizenship. I just think we can do so much better than we are now.
If you leave and pay the government thousands of dollars to renounce your citizenship, you still have the obligation to pay federal income taxes even though you don't live here anymore. We're the only country in the world that will hunt you down anywhere in the world to collect taxes on foreign produced income. That's how great our country is.
 
Why? They are better educated than us. They got covid under control

I've been to China and unless you're in one of the mega-cities (10M+ population) you might as well just look on webMD and self-medicate. The US has a better healthcare system lol. Also the reliance on Eastern medicine means you get a lot of bullshit about treatment.
 
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