C90

Good question, When did you apply? Have you got referred yet?
Applied in July. Got referred in October I think. And then was told I was put in for selection in December but that TOL’s take roughly 3 months to go out. Which seems to line up with what EccentricTic posted earlier in the thread timeline wise.
 
Has anybody heard if they are going to select anybody on the bid that just closed? I was referred in march and now just waiting to here something.
 
Any C90 controllers with a recommendation on whether or not to do TSEW if you got selected on the bid? I’ve heard mixed things about it and am just wondering how beneficial it is in regards to the specific training program there? I’m assuming it’s good practice for feeding and getting more comfortable with volume/speed control but I’m just curious what controllers there think about it.
 
Any C90 controllers with a recommendation on whether or not to do TSEW if you got selected on the bid?
I’ve seen people certify who’ve had the class and didn’t have the class. I’ve also seen people wash who’ve had the class and didn’t have the class. If offered the chance to go, ask yourself if you’re willing to decline an opportunity to help you certify... I wasn’t offered the chance to go, certified anyway ??‍♂️.
 
Tell me all about C90
The good
The bad
The sexy
The ugly
With that, I know they’re in need for people but do you think they’ll actually pick anyone up this year?
Have you worked there? how was your experience? How is the area around C90 (Elgin)?



& yes, Ive searched the tag on here thoroughly...just want new fresh opinions and ALL the info.
lol
 
To update:
C90 has had 8 different ATMs in the last 10 years
C90 has had 16 different OMs in the last 10 years
C90 has had more training withdrawals than failures in the last 5 years
C90 is a stagnant pond in never-ending July heat. Also, a deer got into the parking lot recently and killed itself on the fence, which is a perfect way to summarize C90.
 
To update:
C90 has had 8 different ATMs in the last 10 years
C90 has had 16 different OMs in the last 10 years
C90 has had more training withdrawals than failures in the last 5 years
C90 is a stagnant pond in never-ending July heat. Also, a deer got into the parking lot recently and killed itself on the fence, which is a perfect way to summarize C90.
Sounds like my dream facility. You wouldn't happen to know who makes selections on the bids would you? I believe I heard ATM's don't really make selections when it's usajobs bids so it's not like the ncept where a manager can rank whoever they want in whatever order. Can anyone confirm or deny?
 
-The required tests to get through prior to going to the floor are extremely outdated. The tests are full of information that most CPCs I asked didn't have committed to memory. I was literally told by the contracted civilian trainers that they wouldn't care if I brought my binder in while I took the test. The tests are now proctored. Maybe they aren't full of irrelevant and outdated shit now?
-Additionally said binder was last updated in like 2014 or some shit. Can't remember since I tossed it. I had to specifically request course material and that's what I was provided with - outdated shit. Also when you ask for a map of the airspace, you are provided with an 8x11 printed page of the entire fucking airspace. The training department truly could not give a fuck less but boy do they jerk themselves off for simulations.
-Many controllers are burnt the fuck out on training and expecting you to quit. Turns out that judgment is infectious and being virtually anywhere else is better. In the same vein if you're not from the general area of the Midwest, some CPCs will write you off for even stepping foot in the door. None of it was particularly intimidating but expect to put forth tremendously more effort than the training department is willing to.
-The management are turbo cancer. Holy fuck they're terrible.
 
Sounds like my dream facility. You wouldn't happen to know who makes selections on the bids would you? I believe I heard ATM's don't really make selections when it's usajobs bids so it's not like the ncept where a manager can rank whoever they want in whatever order. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Before I left there was 40-60 applications with the USAjobs header on the ATM's conference table. I'd only assume they have final say in the process.
 
Before I left there was 40-60 applications with the USAjobs header on the ATM's conference table. I'd only assume they have final say in the process.
40-60!? Sheeeshhh no wonder she didn't call me with all those options. But really I'm not quite sure why they don't hire like N90 or the way I think LAX did it where they just taken on an absolute fuck ton of trainees. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to wait 2 years to start training but they could still be selecting more than they are especially when the possible gains goes up every month. Appreciate the info though
 
-The required tests to get through prior to going to the floor are extremely outdated. The tests are full of information that most CPCs I asked didn't have committed to memory. I was literally told by the contracted civilian trainers that they wouldn't care if I brought my binder in while I took the test. The tests are now proctored. Maybe they aren't full of irrelevant and outdated shit now?
-Additionally said binder was last updated in like 2014 or some shit. Can't remember since I tossed it. I had to specifically request course material and that's what I was provided with - outdated shit. Also when you ask for a map of the airspace, you are provided with an 8x11 printed page of the entire fucking airspace. The training department truly could not give a fuck less but boy do they jerk themselves off for simulations.
-Many controllers are burnt the fuck out on training and expecting you to quit. Turns out that judgment is infectious and being virtually anywhere else is better. In the same vein if you're not from the general area of the Midwest, some CPCs will write you off for even stepping foot in the door. None of it was particularly intimidating but expect to put forth tremendously more effort than the training department is willing to.
-The management are turbo cancer. Holy fuck they're terrible.
Is this the guy who failed the Flight Data check ride?
 
Is this the guy who failed the Flight Data check ride?
No. But I gave that guy the gouge on what he would need to know for flight data. Turned out he didn't listen and he's the reason the tests are now proctored. Something about how he told the OS watching him for cert that he "was told to cheat on all his tests".
 
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