2 Jets collide at HOU. What happened?

[bomber996]

This one is scary. Swiss cheese model starting to mold? Just imagine what this could have been. There's been some close calls recently, but this is more than an incident, this has now come to accident status.

Break out the popcorn.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

This one is scary. Swiss cheese model starting to mold? Just imagine what this could have been. There's been some close calls recently, but this is more than an incident, this has now come to accident status.

Break out the popcorn.

But initial reports are it’s the pilot’s fault so no Swiss cheeses just one guy. Back to #razewen?

 

[HurryUpandWait]

Can’t wait for all the non controllers to get insufferable in the comments of the next VASAviation video

Yeah that is the worst part. Then the mainstream media get a hold of it. I wonder what the statistics for “close calls and incidents” are throughout previous decades in comparison to this one. Are we really having more or is there more oversight and systems in place to catch them?

 

[TimShady]

But initial reports are it’s the pilot’s fault so no Swiss cheeses just one guy. Back to #razewen?

The pilot of the departing aircraft is the one who was pissed on frequency and accused the controller of clearing someone for takeoff or to land while he was departing. Doesn’t add up. Unless he really thought he had a takeoff clearance but didn’t. Controller never said anything like “you took off without clearance” though. It’s missing from audio because the feed is shared with approach freq.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

I guess we will see, I can’t imagine the controller blew it that bad but you can say the same thing about the pilot I suppose.

 

[CF]

Even the FAA isn’t stupid enough to put out a statement saying the hawker took off without a clearance unless they have a statement from controller backed up by the tapes verifying it.

 

[DankVectorz]

Controller never said anything like “you took off without clearance” though.

Because you don’t argue with a plane that just hit another plane

 

[MJ]

I saw the falcon. It’s clearly a departure vs arrival on crossing runways and milliseconds from both being scrap metal.

Citation landing 4, yeah? 18:25 has its position @ 1.5 from the rwy.

 

[TimShady]

Because you don’t argue with a plane that just hit another plane

Yeah, fair enough. The Hawker pilot’s confident tone threw me off, maybe just arrogance though. Glad no one got killed.

 

[GulfCharlie]

Citation landing 4, yeah? 18:25 has its position @ 1.5 from the rwy.

By military logic this play should work. All we need now is a T-38 to be involved.

 

[Spoony90]

It’s gonna get a lot worse before it gets worse

 

[CoffeeIV]

It’s gonna get a lot worse before it gets worse

There have been closer calls than the AUS incident already this year, they just didn't get publicized.

A lot of these issues are controller errors, but I feel like the quality of some of the pilots isn't great. I've had readback issues lately that I expect from a student pilot in a C172, not of a pilot in a B767.

 

[Spoony90]

There have been closer calls than the AUS incident already this year, they just didn't get publicized.

A lot of these issues are controller errors, but I feel like the quality of some of the pilots isn't great. I've had readback issues lately that I expect from a student pilot in a C172, not of a pilot in a B767.

Yup I agree. I’ve also experienced the same. The amount of skill and experience on both sides of the radio is terrifying. Like I said…. It’s gonna get a lot worse before it gets worse

 

[DidYouDoYourNATPRO]

Ready Hawker go to blue 5 now

 

[D-Dub]

There have been closer calls than the AUS incident already this year, they just didn't get publicized.

A lot of these issues are controller errors, but I feel like the quality of some of the pilots isn't great. I've had readback issues lately that I expect from a student pilot in a C172, not of a pilot in a B767.

I love the pestering me for clearance when I'm clearly talking to aircraft on other frequencies. Then you give them clearance at a reasonable rate, and they respond with, "uhhh. I didn't catch anything after the SID." Then you give it to them even slower and they still butcher it.

 

[ajmezz]

Citation landing 4, yeah? 18:25 has its position @ 1.5 from the rwy.

Hawker departing 22 and citation landing 13R.

 

[Bandit117]

Yeah, fair enough. The Hawker pilot’s confident tone threw me off, maybe just arrogance though. Glad no one got killed.

There’s a rumor on aviation Reddit that he was told 22 via foxtrot echo, and read back something like fly heading 120, 22 cleared to go or something in that ballpark. Unconfirmed but it would explain his incredulity

 

[Fg4dubhc]

Can’t wait for all the non controllers to get insufferable in the comments of the next VASAviation video

It's up...

 

[32andBelow]

Sounds like an Archie for the ground controller. The other guy never says anything about the guy taking off without a clearance!

 

[DankVectorz]

Sounds like an Archie for the ground controller. The other guy never says anything about the guy taking off without a clearance!

Would you honestly scold a pilot on frequency who has an emergency? Would you even scold them on frequency if it wasn’t an emergency? Or would you have a little seed of doubt in the back of your brain going “oh fuck did I clear him?!”