2024 NATCA Election & The Purple and Light Blue CBAs

[pedaNTIc]

How long do contract negotiations typically take? These negotations seem to be taking a long time, especially since the contract is set to expire July 1.

I recall hearing the Slate, from the Red, took something like 10 months. Better part of a year. And that was under an amenable Obama administration.

These things take time. Heard PASS has been working on theirs for years.

 

[GulfCharlie]

I recall hearing the Slate, from the Red, took something like 10 months. Better part of a year. And that was under an amenable Obama administration.

These things take time. Heard PASS has been working on theirs for years.

PASS has now gone to second mediation.

 

[Nothanks]

PASS has now gone to second mediation.

Most labor friendly admin though right ? What happened ?

 

[LEAD004]

Most labor friendly admin though right ? What happened ?

I think people think the words “the most labor friendly administration” means more than it ACTUALLY means. Will you see EO’s? Probably not. That’s about it, hahah.

 

[bravounite33]

I think people think the words “the most labor friendly administration” means more than it ACTUALLY means. Will you see EO’s? Probably not. That’s about it, hahah.

Exactly, being the most labor friendly does NOT mean labor friendly. There’s a big difference.

 

[echster]

How long do contract negotiations typically take? These negotiations seem to be taking a long time, especially since the contract is set to expire July 1.

Our contracts don't actually expire. They have an "evergreen clause" that automatically extends their terms until replaced by a subsequent CBA.

As noted, PASS and the FAA have been in negotiations for more than 2 years and are re-entering mediation. In the negotiations for the Purple & Light Blue books, I understand that NATCA and the FAA agreed in their ground rules to complete bargaining/negotiating by the end of September. For any items they were unable to agree upon, the ground rules stipulated that they would be submitted to an arbitration panel and the panel's decision as to those items would be binding on both parties. So we're looking at 6-8 months from start to finish for successor agreements.

 

[GulfCharlie]

Most labor friendly admin though right ? What happened ?

Well, I imagine that PASS is actually fighting for the members as opposed to NATCA, or so it seems.

 

[Nothanks]

Well, I imagine that PASS is actually fighting for the members as opposed to NATCA, or so it seems.

Based off of what?

 

[GulfCharlie]

Based off of what?

I’ll use one point, telework. The NCR has a majority of the people in the office once a week, seeing as the Biden admin has people with massive commercial real estate investments they absolutely hate this. Multiple people have told me that PASS and other federal unions are fighting to keep it once a week. This has a direct impact on those businesses, such as office leases and food service industries.

 

[Nothanks]

I’ll use one point, telework. The NCR has a majority of the people in the office once a week, seeing as the Biden admin has people with massive commercial real estate investments they absolutely hate this. Multiple people have told me that PASS and other federal unions are fighting to keep it once a week. This has a direct impact on those businesses, such as office leases and food service industries.

what’s NCR?

Are you covered by the purple book?

Fighting to keep 1 day a week? How many days a week do they have now ?

 

[Peter Gibbons]

what’s NCR?

Are you covered by the purple book?

Fighting to keep 1 day a week? How many days a week do they have now ?

He's PASS now so covered under a different contract. FAA tried to force us back to (mostly) full time in office earlier this year after the covid work from home stuff and PASS said not so fast and negotiated on a case by case basis by job type and in office needs. His (our) line of business is currently only in office one day a week and telework the other 4. PASS from my understanding is trying to get that written into the contract somehow when it comes to negotiating telework schedules since it's beneficial to most of the workforce and doesn't have any affect on work being completed in many cases.

I don't really stay on the up and up with the union stuff in this job there's really no need to it's a much more relaxed tone with the union politics but that's my understanding. I'm still staying abreast of the natca contracts as I may be eyeballing a region x job in the future curious to see how this shakes out.

 

[GulfCharlie]

what’s NCR?

Are you covered by the purple book?

Fighting to keep 1 day a week? How many days a week do they have now ?

National Capital Region, for the uninitiated, and yes Peter is on point.

 

[Nothanks]

National Capital Region, for the uninitiated, and yes Peter is on point.

Interesting. Never thought someone that’s not even represented by Natca would be so involved in their elections

 

[GulfCharlie]

Interesting. Never thought someone that’s not even represented by Natca would be so involved in their elections

*Glances at Reinstatement Paperwork* Uh-huh... also every time there is an election I usually post all the info for people and reach out to the candidates.

 

[echster]

This was emailed to members in these units and also posted on the NATCA site:

News Update: July 3, 2024: Region X and Staff Support Specialists CBA

Jul 3, 2024

Sisters and Brothers,

Since our last update, negotiations on the successor agreement to the Multi-Unit and Consolidated Collective Bargaining Agreements (the “Light Blue” and the “Purple” books) have progressed at a steady pace. The Parties continue to meet regularly in executive session and the full teams have convened for face-to-face bargaining. The FAA negotiating team consists of representatives from AHL, AVS, AFN, ARP, and ATO with a legal advisor from AGC and a financial advisor from AFN thereby bringing multiple lines-of-business to the table, each with its own unique issues and interests.

As prescribed by the ground rules for these negotiations, the Parties jointly met for Interest Based Bargaining training conducted by a facilitator from the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service. This training provided a positive framework by which these negotiations are to be conducted and the principles delineated therein have already been incorporated into some of the bargaining sessions.

Since the last update, the Parties have tentatively agreed upon an additional six Articles and have reached an agreement in principle on one more Article that is pending final signature. Further, the Parties have agreed to retain an additional four Memoranda of Understanding, with an agreement in principle on another. Seven additional Articles are in active proposal stage and have been passed across the table.

We will continue to provide periodic updates as we move through these negotiations. As we have received several queries about the current status of our Agreements, please remember that the terms and conditions of both the Light Blue and Purple Books remain in full force and effect until these negotiations are concluded and new agreements are ratified.

In Solidarity,

Andrew LeBovidge
NATCA Executive Vice President
Chief Negotiator

Nicole Vitale
NATCA Director of Labor Relations

Lisen Minetti
NATCA Local EAC

Ed Szczuka
NATCA Local ECE

Corey Glaze
NATCA Local ENM

Mark Rausch
NATCA Local ENM

Jordan Klein
NATCA Local N90

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

This was emailed to members in these units and also posted on the NATCA site:

News Update: July 3, 2024: Region X and Staff Support Specialists CBA

Jul 3, 2024

Sisters and Brothers,

Since our last update, negotiations on the successor agreement to the Multi-Unit and Consolidated Collective Bargaining Agreements (the “Light Blue” and the “Purple” books) have progressed at a steady pace. The Parties continue to meet regularly in executive session and the full teams have convened for face-to-face bargaining. The FAA negotiating team consists of representatives from AHL, AVS, AFN, ARP, and ATO with a legal advisor from AGC and a financial advisor from AFN thereby bringing multiple lines-of-business to the table, each with its own unique issues and interests.

As prescribed by the ground rules for these negotiations, the Parties jointly met for Interest Based Bargaining training conducted by a facilitator from the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service. This training provided a positive framework by which these negotiations are to be conducted and the principles delineated therein have already been incorporated into some of the bargaining sessions.

Since the last update, the Parties have tentatively agreed upon an additional six Articles and have reached an agreement in principle on one more Article that is pending final signature. Further, the Parties have agreed to retain an additional four Memoranda of Understanding, with an agreement in principle on another. Seven additional Articles are in active proposal stage and have been passed across the table.

We will continue to provide periodic updates as we move through these negotiations. As we have received several queries about the current status of our Agreements, please remember that the terms and conditions of both the Light Blue and Purple Books remain in full force and effect until these negotiations are concluded and new agreements are ratified.

In Solidarity,

Andrew LeBovidge
NATCA Executive Vice President
Chief Negotiator

Nicole Vitale
NATCA Director of Labor Relations

Lisen Minetti
NATCA Local EAC

Ed Szczuka
NATCA Local ECE

Corey Glaze
NATCA Local ENM

Mark Rausch
NATCA Local ENM

Jordan Klein
NATCA Local N90

Two more months down. Any news or rumblings that you've heard?

 

[echster]

Two more months down. Any news or rumblings that you've heard?

There should finally be another update coming soon from NATCA EVP LeBovidge. I hope it's this week... Friday or Saturday if keeping with the release dates of the prior updates.

Lots going on since the previous update... mostly the NATCA elections, to include a new Region X RVP, and the first NEB meeting last week with the new RVPs.

Word is that "great progress" has been made but there are no details being made public. I'm not sure I particularly care for updates... just show me the money!

P.S. Anyone catch the IAM/Boeing contract details released yesterday and being voted for this week? First the pilot's unions then the machinist's union. NATCA needs to join our AFL-CIO Brothers and Sisters in stemming the bleeding and secure similar financial benefits for its members.

 

[Nothanks]

There should finally be another update coming soon from NATCA EVP LeBovidge. I hope it's this week... Friday or Saturday if keeping with the release dates of the prior updates.

Lots going on since the previous update... mostly the NATCA elections, to include a new Region X RVP, and the first NEB meeting last week with the new RVPs.

Word is that "great progress" has been made but there are no details being made public. I'm not sure I particularly care for updates... just show me the money!

P.S. Anyone catch the IAM/Boeing contract details released yesterday and being voted for this week? First the pilot's unions then the machinist's union. NATCA needs to join our AFL-CIO Brothers and Sisters in stemming the bleeding and secure similar financial benefits for its members.

Im missing the details on that contract. Looks like they didn’t gain anything for 16 years prior ?

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

There should finally be another update coming soon from NATCA EVP LeBovidge. I hope it's this week... Friday or Saturday if keeping with the release dates of the prior updates.

Lots going on since the previous update... mostly the NATCA elections, to include a new Region X RVP, and the first NEB meeting last week with the new RVPs.

Word is that "great progress" has been made but there are no details being made public. I'm not sure I particularly care for updates... just show me the money!

P.S. Anyone catch the IAM/Boeing contract details released yesterday and being voted for this week? First the pilot's unions then the machinist's union. NATCA needs to join our AFL-CIO Brothers and Sisters in stemming the bleeding and secure similar financial benefits for its members.

Im missing the details on that contract. Looks like they didn’t gain anything for 16 years prior ?

While the baseline raises are less than the 40% average the aviation sector has seen over the last few years, it looks like they got a lot of decent longevity stuff.

25% raises over the 4 year contract (11% in 2025, 4% in 2026, 4% in 2027, and 6% in 2028).
$3k ratification bonus.
Increase in shift differential pay and creation of new premium pay categories.
Increase to minimum pay rate.
Increased company retirement contribution (extra $4k year company contribution on top of 4% contribution with additional company matching employee contributions of up to 8% at 75%).
Lowered health care cost share cap (defacto raise if less of your paycheck is going to your insurance).
Career progression steps consolidated to only one.

https://www.iam751.org/2024Proposal/SummaryMachinistsReachHistoricTentativeAgreement.pdf

 

[Nothanks]

While the baseline raises are less than the 40% average the aviation sector has seen over the last few years, it looks like they got a lot of decent longevity stuff.

25% raises over the 4 year contract (11% in 2025, 4% in 2026, 4% in 2027, and 6% in 2028).
$3k ratification bonus.
Increase in shift differential pay and creation of new premium pay categories.
Increase to minimum pay rate.
Increased company retirement contribution (extra $4k year company contribution on top of 4% contribution with additional company matching employee contributions of up to 8% at 75%).
Lowered health care cost share cap (defacto raise if less of your paycheck is going to your insurance).
Career progression steps consolidated to only one.

https://www.iam751.org/2024Proposal/SummaryMachinistsReachHistoricTentativeAgreement.pdf

I see that I’m curious what they have been receiving over the last 14 years though. Have they been stagnant like people are saying? If so, this is weak af.