C90 Training Failure

[planevan]

You weren’t the first person to think of that scam. C90 has wasted a lot of training hours on people who have no intention of being a cpc at c90.

Don’t hate the player. Hate the game.

 

[WWII_hero_Driscoll]

Don’t hate the player. Hate the game.

Hate both

 

[Nothanks]

Don’t hate the player. Hate the game.

No player here, you just go back to your old facility. No game to play

 

[planevan]

Lol y'all are grumps. Go get a hobby.

 

[Lurking007]

Why do most people fail/withdraw from training? What is the biggest obstacle for people transferring in to overcome?

 

[WWII_hero_Driscoll]

Lol y'all are grumps. Go get a hobby.

My wife says I need less hobbies.

 

[SquawkHijack]

Why do most people fail/withdraw from training? What is the biggest obstacle for people transferring in to overcome?

Lack of movement, I’d be willing to be most who wash/withdrawal from training at a 10-12 are playing the game for a nest list roll at where they want to go. Below those levels idk, they might just suck?

 

[RalphBeast]

Lack of movement, I’d be willing to be most who wash/withdrawal from training at a 10-12 are playing the game for a nest list roll at where they want to go. Below those levels idk, they might just suck?

1. They are not good controllers
2. They are bad controllers

 

[AB19]

Why do most people fail/withdraw from training? What is the biggest obstacle for people transferring in to overcome?

Probably going to Australia because they're told they aren't seeing enough traffic

 

[Mr.Tickles]

1. They are not good controllers
2. They are bad controllers

3. Their trainers suck.

 

[AB19]

3. Their trainers suck.

Nah, 90% of trainers are great there, especially the ones commenting in this thread

 

[N90-EWR]

3. Their trainers suck.

Excuses are a dime a dozen and nobody wants to hear them!

I have respect for controllers like the OP that tried their best, and recognized that they came up short. That guy would be someone who I’d love to give a second chance after he gets some more radar experience at a lower facility.

 

[RalphBeast]

Excuses are a dime a dozen and nobody wants to hear them!

I have respect for controllers like the OP that tried their best, and recognized that they came up short. That guy would be someone who I’d love to give a second chance after he gets some more radar experience at a lower facility.

Absolutely nothing worse than having to train a professional victim. Nothing is ever their fault, always ready with an excuse, always blaming everyone but themselves. Most don't make it and those that eventually do probably shouldn't have.

No better feeling than seeing them walk out the door for the last time.

 

[N90-EWR]

Absolutely nothing worse than having to train a professional victim. Nothing is ever their fault, always ready with an excuse, always blaming everyone but themselves. Most don't make it and those that eventually do probably shouldn't have.

No better feeling than seeing them walk out the door for the last time.

100% agreed! Those are the ones that will badmouth the facility and the training program when they go elsewhere.

 

[DankVectorz]

Frankly we’ve had an influx of low level transfers and maybe it was just the bad apples looking for a way out but I am now terrified to fly into a level 5 facilities airspace.

 

[Nothanks]

100% agreed! Those are the ones that will badmouth the facility and the training program when they go elsewhere.

They also cry about how they don’t make enough money either, and had the chance to make 250+. Just couldn’t hack it

 

[SquawkHijack]

Frankly we’ve had an influx of low level transfers and maybe it was just the bad apples looking for a way out but I am now terrified to fly into a level 5 facilities airspace.

I mean… I don’t wanna sound like one to make excuses but lower level facilities are a totally different operation. SOPs are pretty short and vague and things are the Wild West. Fort Wayne approach doesn’t have or need STARs and SIDs, run C to A or use a lot of speed control. One really has to get used to a different operational atmosphere going from slow to very busy.

That said, I’ll definitely concede that there are a good number of low level controllers who are ass.

 

[KP-ATC]

I mean… I don’t wanna sound like one to make excuses but lower level facilities are a totally different operation. SOPs are pretty short and vague and things are the Wild West. Fort Wayne approach doesn’t have or need STARs and SIDs, run C to A or use a lot of speed control. One really has to get used to a different operational atmosphere going from slow to very busy.

That said, I’ll definitely concede that there are a good number of low level controllers who are ass.

I've seen low level controllers come up and do a fantastic job while others are useless. Same for people coming from higher level facilities. Talent is not fairly distributed. Being at a busy tracon, I'd take a highly motivated low level up/down controller over a Z controller every time.

 

[32andBelow]

I've seen low level controllers come up and do a fantastic job while others are useless. Same for people coming from higher level facilities. Talent is not fairly distributed. Being at a busy tracon, I'd take a highly motivated low level up/down controller over a Z controller every time.

It’s like they should assess people skills earlier in their careers instead of just yeeting people into the void

 

[AlmostEligible]

Don’t hate the player. Hate the game.

Well the game is now don't pass go don't collect $200 lol. Back to your shitty previous facility lol