Easiest facilities for every dollar/ hardest facilities for every dollar

Dousand24 said:

N90 is a joke

Ah yes…another arm chair vector god who knows nothing about nothing 🙂 kindly tell everyone what years you were certified in the facility you know so much about?

Cys. But seriously

32andBelow said:

Dang you work there?! I dunno the lax people never rep it! The n90 people say it every other sentence

Have u ever seen the n90 cats? I went to a convention back in 2014 and they are super fat. Always hitting the buffet….multiple passes approved. And if one of them forgot their inhaler, that was it….radar contact lost. These dudes made Jaba the hut look fit. That’s why they always have to waive that flag…..bc they are on the last leg of life. This might just be the older cats, but I was literally suprised some of them weren’t beating on their chests screaming DAAAA JETS in order to stay alive.

Papacharlie327 said:

Have u ever seen the n90 cats? I went to a convention back in 2014 and they are super fat. Always hitting the buffet….multiple passes approved. And if one of them forgot their inhaler, that was it….radar contact lost. These dudes made Jaba the hut look fit. That’s why they always have to waive that flag…..bc they are on the last leg of life. This might just be the older cats, but I was literally suprised some of them weren’t beating on their chests screaming DAAAA JETS in order to stay alive.

not gonna lie I took a tour and I didn’t experience this at all

AB19 said:

not gonna lie I took a tour and I didn’t experience this at all

AlwaysBullshiting19 doesn’t have a clue.

MIA TRACON is no joke.

AZO > N90

I.DO.VEHCTAHS said:

Ah yes…another arm chair vector god who knows nothing about nothing 🙂 kindly tell everyone what years you were certified in the facility you know so much about?

Obviously that place is a joke if half the facility moving to PHL. Y’all too dumb to figure it out….

TurnLeftHeading380 said:

MIA TRACON is no joke.

Lmfao

Dousand24 said:

Obviously that place is a joke if half the facility moving to PHL. Y’all too dumb to figure it out….

I don’t work at N90, but I’d love to hear what center you work at?if you aren’t too scared to reveal that.

Smitty said:

AZO > N90

*6am* North Sat, Buick, 32, APREQ?

Jesus Christ just ship em

TurnLeftHeading380 said:

MIA TRACON is no joke

atc12bsthrowaway said:

I don’t work at N90, but I’d love to hear what center you work at?if you aren’t too scared to reveal that.

Guam

Dousand24 said:

Obviously that place is a joke if half the facility moving to PHL. Y’all too dumb to figure it out….

Lmfao

You really do eat your own boogers if you think “half” of anything is onboard with the move. Now if you said 100% of the National EBoard…no argument there. Them there is the cream of the crop.

Dousand24 said:

Obviously that place is a joke if half the facility moving to PHL. Y’all too dumb to figure it out….

If by half you mean 1 out of 5 areas and only 1 volunteer in that area…

And at that assuming it happens at all, which frankly doesn’t seem likely

Dousand24 said:

Guam

✊

DankVectorz said:

If by half you mean 1 out of 5 areas and only 1 volunteer in that area…

And at that assuming it happens at all, which frankly doesn’t seem likely

It's already been canned

Again…..C90 is starting to get out of mando OT. Ladies and dudes alike are getting 2 RDOs in some crews. Plus $27k move money???? Creeping up on the board for easiest dollar facility

So I did the math, so to speak. by calculating how many operations each CPC is responsible for in 2022 YTD. Center data had to be extrapolated (only had the count through 11/30). PPT current as of 12/28.

ALL DATA IS IN THIS FORMAT
FAC ID - OPS PER CPC - TRAINEE RATIO
(e.g. JFK - 11k - 25%)

HARDEST FACILITIES (Most operations per controller)
TOWER ONLY
1. CNO - 30.5k - 36.4%
2. FFZ - 28.6k - 7.7%
3. BJC - 26.4k - 16.7%
4. MYF - 26.2k - 14.3%
5. PAO - 24.7k - 36.4%
TOWER/RADAR FACILITIES
1. HLN - 34.5k - 25%
2. MIA - 26.5k - 34.8%
3. MYR - 24.7k - 9.1%
4. AUS - 21.5k - 15.8%
5. BNA - 20.5k - 8.8%
APPROACH ONLY
1. L30 - 19.7k - 15.4%
2. D10 - 19k - 26.4%
3. F11 - 17k - 13%
4. S46 - 16.9k - 14.6%
5. U90 - 15.5k - 18.8%
ENROUTE
1. ZUA - 15.9k - 30.8%
2. ZLC - 12.2k - 22.2%
3. ZJX - 12.2k - 23.9%
4. ZLA - 11.8k - 28%
5. ZNY - 11.4k - 30.1%

EASIEST FACILITIES (Least operations per controller)
TOWER ONLY
1. MFD - 1.7k - 7.7%
2. BPT - 1.9k - 16.7%
3. MBS - 2.2k - 20%
4. ERI - 2.5k - 16.7%
5. LAN - 2.7k - 15.4%
TOWER/RADAR FACILITIES
1. SUX - 2.6k - 13.3%
2. BGM - 2.8k - 12.5%
3. HTS - 2.9k - 10.5%
4. ELM - 3.2k - 12.5%
5. YNG - 3.7k - 15.8%
APPROACH ONLY
1. P31 - 8.4k - 11.1%
2. D21 - 9.1k - 17.2%
3. PCT - 9.1k - 8.2%
4. M98 - 9.9k - 27.1%
5. NCT - 11.4k - 12.7%
ENROUTE
1. ZAN - 7.2k - 21.6%
2. ZAU - 7.3k - 18.4%
3. ZOB - 7.4k - 16.1%
4. ZSU - 7.6k - 42.4%
5. ZSE - 8.3k - 20.3%
(HCF and JCF both have less than 2k ops per controller)

Phillytroll69 said:

It's already been canned

Nothing official yet

woodfinx said:

APPROACH ONLY
1. P31 - 8.4k - 11.1%
2. D21 - 9.1k - 17.2%
3. PCT - 9.1k - 8.2%
4. M98 - 9.9k - 27.1%
5. NCT - 11.4k - 12.7%

Can you post all tracons numbers? And where did you get your traffic count numbers

woodfinx said:

So I did the math, so to speak. by calculating how many operations each CPC is responsible for in 2022 YTD. Center data had to be extrapolated (only had the count through 11/30). PPT current as of 12/28.

ALL DATA IS IN THIS FORMAT
FAC ID - OPS PER CPC - TRAINEE RATIO
(e.g. JFK - 11k - 25%)

HARDEST FACILITIES (Most operations per controller)
TOWER ONLY
1. CNO - 30.5k - 36.4%
2. FFZ - 28.6k - 7.7%
3. BJC - 26.4k - 16.7%
4. MYF - 26.2k - 14.3%
5. PAO - 24.7k - 36.4%
TOWER/RADAR FACILITIES
1. HLN - 34.5k - 25%
2. MIA - 26.5k - 34.8%
3. MYR - 24.7k - 9.1%
4. AUS - 21.5k - 15.8%
5. BNA - 20.5k - 8.8%
APPROACH ONLY
1. L30 - 19.7k - 15.4%
2. D10 - 19k - 26.4%
3. F11 - 17k - 13%
4. S46 - 16.9k - 14.6%
5. U90 - 15.5k - 18.8%
ENROUTE
1. ZUA - 15.9k - 30.8%
2. ZLC - 12.2k - 22.2%
3. ZJX - 12.2k - 23.9%
4. ZLA - 11.8k - 28%
5. ZNY - 11.4k - 30.1%

EASIEST FACILITIES (Least operations per controller)
TOWER ONLY
1. MFD - 1.7k - 7.7%
2. BPT - 1.9k - 16.7%
3. MBS - 2.2k - 20%
4. ERI - 2.5k - 16.7%
5. LAN - 2.7k - 15.4%
TOWER/RADAR FACILITIES
1. SUX - 2.6k - 13.3%
2. BGM - 2.8k - 12.5%
3. HTS - 2.9k - 10.5%
4. ELM - 3.2k - 12.5%
5. YNG - 3.7k - 15.8%
APPROACH ONLY
1. P31 - 8.4k - 11.1%
2. D21 - 9.1k - 17.2%
3. PCT - 9.1k - 8.2%
4. M98 - 9.9k - 27.1%
5. NCT - 11.4k - 12.7%
ENROUTE
1. ZAN - 7.2k - 21.6%
2. ZAU - 7.3k - 18.4%
3. ZOB - 7.4k - 16.1%
4. ZSU - 7.6k - 42.4%
5. ZSE - 8.3k - 20.3%
(HCF and JCF both have less than 2k ops per controller)

It’s a nice, high-level overview. But, raw traffic data can be very misleading.

1. Complexity makes the job “more difficult” than volume.
2. You really have to divide it up into areas of Zs and large TRACONs. All areas are obviously not created equal.