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Hiring Bid FAA-ATO-20-ALLSRCE-65607

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  1. Motodog #3361
    Oh_Horizon said:

    I'm fortunate enough to have a very cheap living situation, paid off cars, and some cash saved up (and adding as much as I can for now). I dont plan on doing anything but putting 100% of my energy into the academy classes. I'm about to turn 30 this year, i have student debt, and not many career options left in life. I'm taking no chances on letting ATC slip through my fingers. Failure is not an option. ?

    Well said sir. We’re taking about a multi-million $ career. Very difficult to get hired, get through screening/training process. But an excellent deal once those hurdles are cleared.

  2. Etkini #3362
    JOVANNI94 said:

    So curious, is anyone else considering holding a part time job while we do online basics? I think I remember a discussion about whether or not we could and the consensus was it's allowed. I'm in a position where my hours are flexible enough I could probably make it work but just wondering if anyone else was in the same boat.

    It's unfortunate that you couldn't do "full-time," but I did read it said part-time only. At my job we can do shift swaps so I could do the entire 40 hours in 2 days - it would certainly help me avoid the massive pay cut for a little while longer considering I wouldn't be getting per diem at home either.

  3. 32andBelow #3363
    Etkini said:

    It's unfortunate that you couldn't do "full-time," but I did read it said part-time only. At my job we can do shift swaps so I could do the entire 40 hours in 2 days - it would certainly help me avoid the massive pay cut for a little while longer considering I wouldn't be getting per diem at home either.

    They can’t control what you do when you’re off

  4. JOVANNI94 #3364
    Oh_Horizon said:

    I'm fortunate enough to have a very cheap living situation, paid off cars, and some cash saved up (and adding as much as I can for now). I dont plan on doing anything but putting 100% of my energy into the academy classes. I'm about to turn 30 this year, i have student debt, and not many career options left in life. I'm taking no chances on letting ATC slip through my fingers. Failure is not an option. ?

    Same here not going to go through all these hoops just to not take the academy seriously. That's priority numero uno lol.

    Etkini said:

    It's unfortunate that you couldn't do "full-time," but I did read it said part-time only. At my job we can do shift swaps so I could do the entire 40 hours in 2 days - it would certainly help me avoid the massive pay cut for a little while longer considering I wouldn't be getting per diem at home either.

    That's nuts lol 40 hours in two days? Is that a typo ha. All depends on the actual hours for the online basics. In theory I can work my 40 hours by working a couple hours before and after class. Something I'll figure out later.

  5. Etkini #3365
    JOVANNI94 said:

    That's nuts lol 40 hours in two days? Is that a typo ha. All depends on the actual hours for the online basics. In theory I can work my 40 hours by working a couple hours before and after class. Something I'll figure out later.

    Not a typo, it's got one of the most flexible schedules you could ever have. Many people do two 16 hour days then have four days off, some do 4 on 8 off, some do 7 on 7 off, some even work 6 months straight then have 6 months off to go hunting, run their business or for travel.

  6. AV8R #3366

    Is anybody aware of how the MMPI gets “cleared”? Is it the flight surgeon that clears it during their final review or is it already cleared before it reaches the flight surgeon?

  7. zedex #3367
    Nl1 said:

    I’m considering it. I might take a few days off when it first starts but it shouldn’t be a problem.

    I’m tempted to keep working my full time job if I can manage to get a schedule to work out. But, if I get into that May en route class I’ll be able to take my vacation weeks then. If it doesn’t work out then I’ll be surviving on my savings until out of OKC, which is what I’m planning on and is absolutely worth it IMO.

  8. ninerfour #3368
    AV8R said:

    Is anybody aware of how the MMPI gets “cleared”? Is it the flight surgeon that clears it during their final review or is it already cleared before it reaches the flight surgeon?

    From what I’ve heard, I think a psychologist goes over the results and then sends the flight surgeon the all clear or tells him your tier 2’d. But you can’t completely clear medical until you’ve cleared the mmpi

  9. LTB83 #3369
    Lightwrm said:

    It might have taken a while and required a lot a patience/trust in the process, but I finally got my EODS emails from my rep, CS.
    Finally time to start the next steps ?

    Also received mine Friday.

  10. KAB #3370
    AV8R said:

    Is anybody aware of how the MMPI gets “cleared”? Is it the flight surgeon that clears it during their final review or is it already cleared before it reaches the flight surgeon?

    The computer does a preliminary scoring, then a psychologist interprets the scores and flags anything they think is important. Doesn't take long at all. Then they forward their evaluation to medical.

  11. Hotel Sierra #3371
    Oh_Horizon said:

    I'm fortunate enough to have a very cheap living situation, paid off cars, and some cash saved up (and adding as much as I can for now). I dont plan on doing anything but putting 100% of my energy into the academy classes. I'm about to turn 30 this year, i have student debt, and not many career options left in life. I'm taking no chances on letting ATC slip through my fingers. Failure is not an option. ?

    You and me both. If I don't become an ATC it will not be due to my lack of effort. 100% learning and training. If basics are still virtual by the time we go, I'm going to treat it as if I'm OK.

  12. dingalings99 #3372

    so are we allowed to see our mmpi results? i wanna psychoanalyze myself

  13. 32andBelow #3373
    dingalings99 said:

    so are we allowed to see our mmpi results? i wanna psychoanalyze myself

    Nope

  14. ninerfour #3374

    Happy one year since applying everyone! Here’s to hopefully getting the email with our class dates soon!

  15. Drewzer #3375
    ninerfour said:

    Happy one year since applying everyone! Here’s to hopefully getting the email with our class dates soon!


    What a world wind it’s been so far....let’s get these FOLs!!!

  16. Motodog #3376
    32andBelow said:

    Nope

    Ha, no...main thing mmpi looking for is do you love sheep more than your mother. Or something like that

  17. 32andBelow #3377
    Motodog said:

    Ha, no...main thing mmpi looking for is do you love sheep more than your mother. Or something like that

    Do you love your father? When I took it I wondered about these questions. Like what if you don’t cus your dad is a POS that beat you.

  18. Etkini #3378
    32andBelow said:

    Do you love your father? When I took it I wondered about these questions. Like what if you don’t cus your dad is a POS that beat you.

    That's why it blows my mind the FAA doesn't automatically sit you down with a psych after testing like almost every other agency that has you take an MMPI does, because some answers require an explanation. I've always "failed" them because when it asks if you love your mother or father my answer is no - I've never met my father and my mother and step-father were abusive. On top of that, with the job I have now I "failed" the MMPI because I said I didn't drink, and when it asked how much it took me to get drunk I said "2-3 drinks" which they felt was a lot, even though it was the lowest answer. Generally, after five minutes of sitting with a psych they make a note and the process moves on.

    Instead with the FAA, I get to be delayed for a few months.

  19. Preformer_93 #3379
    Etkini said:

    On top of that, with the job I have now I "failed" the MMPI because I said I didn't drink, and when it asked how much it took me to get drunk I said "2-3 drinks" which they felt was a lot, even though it was the lowest answer.

    How were you able to answer a quantitative question when the MMPI only comprises of yes or no answers?

  20. 32andBelow #3380
    Preformer_93 said:

    How were you able to answer a quantitative question when the MMPI only comprises of yes or no answers?

    I don’t remember the test exactly but it can ask things like. Do you get drunk after 2-3 drinks.

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