Facility Downgrades / Upgrades

[AB19]

Regional pilots used to say the same thing about being underpaid. Supply went down, demand went up. Pay went up. Collective bargaining/free market. Magical

There is over 100000 commercial pilots in the US. We have less than a fifth of that and don’t get paid accordingly

 

[Acquired Taste]

There is over 100000 commercial pilots in the US. We have less than a fifth of that and don’t get paid accordingly

Don't forget they're off 12-15 days every month.

 

[Motodog]

There is over 100000 commercial pilots in the US. We have less than a fifth of that and don’t get paid accordingly

Nope. Pay is not what You say it should be. It’s what you negotiate for

 

[boots]

Nothing to negotiate when Santa Claus fucks you in the ass

 

[AB19]

Nope. Pay is not what You say it should be. It’s what you negotiate for

Well sorry that our union can't use proper tactics to get a raise

 

[BrocolliRob]

I’m happy to be a government worker for all it entails but there are definitely advantages (and disadvantages) of working for a privately owned company that’s main goal is providing value to shareholders.

I feel like on that basis alone, comparing us to airline pilots is kind of apples and oranges. There is no incentive for our employer to raise wages and attract talent when 50k people apply every bid. And believe me, I would love more money as someone who’s been at a level 5, understaffed facility their entire career.

 

[RomeoTangoRT]

As a gov employee, the likelihood of getting a meaningful pay increase is slim if none. But as someone who’s worked a handful of years at “private” contract facilities, your likelihood of getting meaningful pay compared to traffic worked is even less. When I was at HWO, we were doing traffic volume on par with FLL next door. We made less working 60hr weeks than they did on 40s. So take that for what it’s worth.

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

MSP officially going to a 9

 

[kombucha23]

MSP officially going to a 9

End of an era.

 

[HenryTheAce]

MSP officially going to a 9

I see y’all are joining our ranks… TRACON 10 & Tower 9… sad sad sad.

 

[MICRTC]

MSP officially going to a 9

Bummer

 

[boots]

Lets goooo. Overhaul the entire system

 

[rhombus]

MSP officially going to a 9

They’ll be back soon

 

[RalphBeast]

MSP at lvl 11 was a feking joke when ORD with its old super complicated layout was a 12.

 

[Motodog]

MSP officially going to a 9

Delta gradually shrinking the (previous Northwest hub) base

 

[SunnyATC]

MSP at lvl 11 was a feking joke when ORD with its old super complicated layout was a 12.

 

[Phanatical]

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ORD won’t get downgraded. I can the the NY Metroplex dropping to a 10 though especially with airline reductions.

 

[Acquired Taste]

ORD won’t get downgraded. I can the the NY Metroplex dropping to a 10 though especially with airline reductions.

It could eventually get downgraded but LGA and EWR are currently both above the buffer (still below the level 11 min tci) and JFK is actually 2.2 points away from the 11 buffer for the first time in 12 years and has been trending upwards. They will probably be above the buffer for June.

 

[SunnyATC]

Anyone have data from when they changed the pay bands to levels 4-12 from the old system (3-5?) Is this the lowest amount of high level (10-12) terminal facilities with nationwide record passenger numbers? Seems like a downgrade for the whole profession. Fewer high level desirable locations which makes it harder to get there increasing the staffing issues nationwide.

 

[boots]

It could eventually get downgraded but LGA and EWR are currently both above the buffer (still below the level 11 min tci) and JFK is actually 2.2 points away from the 11 buffer for the first time in 12 years and has been trending upwards. They will probably be above the buffer for June.

Woo go JFK. Special rules for special places.