Motodog said:Regional pilots used to say the same thing about being underpaid. Supply went down, demand went up. Pay went up. Collective bargaining/free market. Magical
There is over 100000 commercial pilots in the US. We have less than a fifth of that and don’t get paid accordingly
AB19 said:There is over 100000 commercial pilots in the US. We have less than a fifth of that and don’t get paid accordingly
Don't forget they're off 12-15 days every month.
AB19 said:There is over 100000 commercial pilots in the US. We have less than a fifth of that and don’t get paid accordingly
Nope. Pay is not what You say it should be. It’s what you negotiate for
Nothing to negotiate when Santa Claus fucks you in the ass
Motodog said:Nope. Pay is not what You say it should be. It’s what you negotiate for
Well sorry that our union can't use proper tactics to get a raise
I’m happy to be a government worker for all it entails but there are definitely advantages (and disadvantages) of working for a privately owned company that’s main goal is providing value to shareholders.
I feel like on that basis alone, comparing us to airline pilots is kind of apples and oranges. There is no incentive for our employer to raise wages and attract talent when 50k people apply every bid. And believe me, I would love more money as someone who’s been at a level 5, understaffed facility their entire career.
As a gov employee, the likelihood of getting a meaningful pay increase is slim if none. But as someone who’s worked a handful of years at “private” contract facilities, your likelihood of getting meaningful pay compared to traffic worked is even less. When I was at HWO, we were doing traffic volume on par with FLL next door. We made less working 60hr weeks than they did on 40s. So take that for what it’s worth.
MSP officially going to a 9
GulfBravoPapa said:MSP officially going to a 9
End of an era.
GulfBravoPapa said:MSP officially going to a 9
I see y’all are joining our ranks… TRACON 10 & Tower 9… sad sad sad.
GulfBravoPapa said:MSP officially going to a 9
Bummer
Lets goooo. Overhaul the entire system
GulfBravoPapa said:MSP officially going to a 9
They’ll be back soon
MSP at lvl 11 was a feking joke when ORD with its old super complicated layout was a 12.
GulfBravoPapa said:MSP officially going to a 9
Delta gradually shrinking the (previous Northwest hub) base
RalphBeast said:MSP at lvl 11 was a feking joke when ORD with its old super complicated layout was a 12.
SunnyATC said:
ORD won’t get downgraded. I can the the NY Metroplex dropping to a 10 though especially with airline reductions.
Phanatical said:ORD won’t get downgraded. I can the the NY Metroplex dropping to a 10 though especially with airline reductions.
It could eventually get downgraded but LGA and EWR are currently both above the buffer (still below the level 11 min tci) and JFK is actually 2.2 points away from the 11 buffer for the first time in 12 years and has been trending upwards. They will probably be above the buffer for June.
Anyone have data from when they changed the pay bands to levels 4-12 from the old system (3-5?) Is this the lowest amount of high level (10-12) terminal facilities with nationwide record passenger numbers? Seems like a downgrade for the whole profession. Fewer high level desirable locations which makes it harder to get there increasing the staffing issues nationwide.
Acquired Taste said:It could eventually get downgraded but LGA and EWR are currently both above the buffer (still below the level 11 min tci) and JFK is actually 2.2 points away from the 11 buffer for the first time in 12 years and has been trending upwards. They will probably be above the buffer for June.
Woo go JFK. Special rules for special places.
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