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JetBlue CEO is right and our equipment is outdated. STARS is like 1985 equipment. Boggles my fkn mind how the govt spends so much damn money
Leaving NATCA outside January
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ManBearPig
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Don't worry, they are in the process of spending hundreds of millions of dollars on changing the backend operating system of STARS. But, not actually updating STARS.
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But we need to focus on things like changing NOTAMs and cockpit, they’re more important
Yes this is correct. The union rep from a close by facility will rep your facility. Ive seen it happen.
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But at least it took 25 years to fully implement stars too.
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so how many peeps broke the chains of their captivity & quit NATCA? IS there a way to get definitive numbers?
Like blank checks? Man, my facility is stingy as fuck with OT. They rather run understaffed with sectors combined when it’s busy than publish OT to split off scopes
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IMHO, If you're a lvl 6 and below, district isn't going to give you enough money to issue OT.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thout OT budget's we're preset and that if you were going over they would just take for another facility.
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The ot budget is set ahead of time based on BATS projection and based on past year or years. Any overages are done anyway the district/region/national sees fit. I have not heard of every place doing it consistently the same way. I have heard of one facility not using theirs so in essence that pile of cash becomes another’s facilities pile of cash as you described.
Of course managers skim off the top for their fat bonuses too, because you know they are really living their best life.
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Oh how wonderful it is to have the ATM come into the area and tell everyone how much money they saved the past couple months in OT. While not realizing the entire area had been working short for months. Because OT is their bonus. And that right there is fucked. Safer operation vs my bonus.
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This is why we call in OT at every opportunity that management isn’t in the control rooms/cabs. There is no such thing as an OT budget in the sense it will ever run out. The FAA is never going to say “Just close early since we used out budget up”.
Safety is always first until it isn’t. Stripping the operation for safety briefings is the best. Running short for retarded recurrent training with Jammer. And then when we’re critically short staffed and try to reduce the rate for SAFETY, everyone calls and bitches to the district, region, and command center. We get told to deal with it and work with 20% staffing while going without breaks.
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I am interested too to see how many people left, I don’t think NATCA is obligated to publish it anytime soon but I’m sure it will come out.
Related to this it seems like NATCA was going balls to the wall the last year to sign up contract towers, which is a little strange as they make no money off contract towers and don’t give a fuck about them.
I think it’s because if 600 real FAA NATCA members for example left this January, and they signed up 300 from contract towers, they can say they “only” lost 300 people (normally it’s about 30 each January).
Related to this it seems like NATCA was going balls to the wall the last year to sign up contract towers, which is a little strange as they make no money off contract towers and don’t give a fuck about them.
I think it’s because if 600 real FAA NATCA members for example left this January, and they signed up 300 from contract towers, they can say they “only” lost 300 people (normally it’s about 30 each January).
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I know of 7 from a facility of 27 that left. Facrep included
Care to share what facility? I'm at a lower level facility and I'm the only one who isn't a member. A couple want to leave but are scared
If they are in training yet or if they want to transfer and there’s an actual shot they can transfer then suggest them staying the course. If they are fine finishing out their career wherever you work I don’t know why they would be scared…
Sounds like plenty are tired of being sheep and are sick of NEB.
Think that February panel was a coincidence…..I’m guessing not with the timing of when 1188 were due by, get people scared and collect another years dues.
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Not sure if it’s up to date but 88% and 93% is actually way healthier than I thought considering that Georgia isn’t particularly Union-friendly.
