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New NCEPT MOU

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  1. 32andBelow #101
    Homsar said:

    Typically it’s negotiated locally, because the contract is vague as to what is required for it. I’ve seen districts push back on same-city transfers, but if you can make an argument that you’re doing something incidental to changing facilities then it should be granted.

    I have to buy a bigger house with my huge bonus

  2. DankVectorz #102
    32andBelow said:

    I have to buy a bigger house with my huge bonus

    Tbf even in the case of the ZTL/A80 transfers, even though they both serve Atlanta airport the facilities are like 45 minutes apart. Depending on where you live you may actually in fact need to move if you don’t want a 2 hour commute.

  3. ManBearPig #103

    I 100% may have missed it being said or it being in the MOU, but both the gaining and losing ATMs are being asked in the BUEs selected transfer date is acceptable. Apparently they can file for a deviation to hold somebody.

  4. Bandit117 #104
    ManBearPig said:

    I 100% may have missed it being said or it being in the MOU, but both the gaining and losing ATMs are being asked in the BUEs selected transfer date is acceptable. Apparently they can file for a deviation to hold somebody.

    Given that they are only picking up for high visibility, NAS impacting, core 30 type facilities that need people badly, your manager at bumfuck nowhere is going to have to have one hell of a reason to get them to keep you in place after selection.

    The new process has priority releases and a short suspense on your report date and that’s the way they want it. Unless you’re the last CPC there, there’s no way. Even if you were, they would probably tell your manager to go to hell.

  5. wrench978 #105

    The big bottleneck is going to be the academy. Lots of us are going from Z’s or small towers to high level tracons so we all need RTF and TSEW, and for a lot of us, TETRA.

  6. Shikaka #106

    The bottleneck is the back end waiting for someone to finish washing out so we can get the numbers right on staffing.

  7. Whiskey Charlie #107

    If someone accepts a TOL for a sup somewhere, are their ERRs still valid too? Trying to figure out if one of my coworkers wanting the same place could still get an offer before me for NCEPT.

  8. Bandit117 #108
    Whiskey Charlie said:

    If someone accepts a TOL for a sup somewhere, are their ERRs still valid too? Trying to figure out if one of my coworkers wanting the same place could still get an offer before me for NCEPT.

    I don’t see why they wouldn’t be. You don’t leave the BU until the date of your FOL, and can back out any time before that.

    Now, will be panel be able to see that you have a TOL for a supe bid? I don’t know. I suppose it would also make a difference between an offer being extended and one being accepted. If someone had a firm release date they might be able to see that, but I would bet (knowing how dysfunctional it can be) that it won’t be spotted until they try to cut the selected person a TOL to find out they already have one.

  9. Abcdefg #109

    Does anyone know of anyone selected on the most recent ncept (June) who had yet to put in an application through aviator. They claim all the paper applications were accepted with the new rules but that seems hard to believe that process went smoothly

  10. Mike Kilo #110
    Abcdefg said:

    Does anyone know of anyone selected on the most recent ncept (June) who had yet to put in an application through aviator. They claim all the paper applications were accepted with the new rules but that seems hard to believe that process went smoothly

    I can’t find where but yes, the paper errs that were already in by a certain date (maybe the day before aviator event live) were considered valid and used for this panel.

  11. chinobrino #111

    Anyone getting the new MOU bonus on this paycheck?

  12. 20moreyears #112
    chinobrino said:

    Anyone getting the new MOU bonus on this paycheck?

    Nope; I'll update this if I hear anything otherwise

  13. Billybob #113
    Abcdefg said:

    Does anyone know of anyone selected on the most recent ncept (June) who had yet to put in an application through aviator. They claim all the paper applications were accepted with the new rules but that seems hard to believe that process went smoothly

    I was picked up and only had paper applications.

    chinobrino said:

    Anyone getting the new MOU bonus on this paycheck?

    None yet, but I think they said up to 30 days?

  14. chinobrino #114
    Billybob said:

    None yet, but I think they said up to 30 days?

    They did, maybe they meant 30 business days but 30 days from the new agreement was 3 days ago and there’s no sign of the bonus on this upcoming paycheck.

    Edit: looks like 30 days after June 12th is July 12th and the upcoming paycheck is through July 11th. Hopefully that’s why it isn’t on this upcoming paycheck

  15. Tater_Toad OP #115
    chinobrino said:

    They did, maybe they meant 30 business days but 30 days from the new agreement was 3 days ago and there’s no sign of the bonus on this upcoming paycheck.

    Edit: looks like 30 days after June 12th is July 12th and the upcoming paycheck is through July 11th. Hopefully that’s why it isn’t on this upcoming paycheck

    The panel with the selections was the 25th. That's the start date I would expect if I were told 30 days

  16. chinobrino #116
    Tater_Toad said:

    The panel with the selections was the 25th. That's the start date I would expect if I were told 30 days

    Probably beating a dead horse at this point but the MOU said for those with an FOL or TOL from a previous panel, payments would be processed within 30 days of the agreement.

  17. Sassyquatch #117

    Does anyone know if there are ranking lists for this new ncept process? HR didn't have that information

  18. bravounite33 #118
    Sassyquatch said:

    Does anyone know if there are ranking lists for this new ncept process? HR didn't have that information

    No, ranking lists are a thing of the past. The SOP mods are already published on the NATCA NCEPT site. Priority is by current facility CPC time.

  19. Iwsaint25 #119
    bravounite33 said:

    No, ranking lists are a thing of the past. The SOP mods are already published on the NATCA NCEPT site. Priority is by current facility CPC time.

    Ok but then how are you ranked between other people from different facilities that are all bidding for a certain facility?

  20. GulfBravoPapa #120
    Iwsaint25 said:

    Ok but then how are you ranked between other people from different facilities that are all bidding for a certain facility?

    The person with the most CPC time gets selected.

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