Question after washing out

[washout_throwaway]

Long story short: Washed @ my zeee while certifying on my 2nd D side. Went through the NEST, didn't get offered any towers or FSS. Union reps pretty much told me, 'Welp, what can you do?'. ATM was cool, offered me a flight data position, so I've been doing that for a few months now.

My (potentially dumb) question is, do I have a direct path to getting back to a 2152 position with the faa through ERR, or other means? Union isn't being helpful, and anyone else I ask isn't sure or won't give me a straight answer. No tower ratings, so can't do contract, and not interested in joining military

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

No, you do not. ATAs are a different job series (not 2152) so you can't ERR back. You could try applying OTS again but if you already failed once your chances of being selected again are slim.

 

[washout_throwaway]

No, you do not. ATAs are a different job series (not 2152) so you can't ERR back. You could try applying OTS again but if you already failed once your chances of being selected again are slim.

thanks! that's what I figured

 

[GulfCharlie]

thanks! that's what I figured

Broaden your horizons a bit would be my advice, the agency has many lines of businesses that need people. Retool that resume, use the time you spend at whatever band and looking for similar band positions in a Regional Operations Center, or FSDO offices. There is a lot of upward mobility still, not as much as if you had been certified but still some.

 

[SolicitSVFR]

You won’t like my advice, you can no longer get good time with the FAA. If I were you’d I’d jump ship, fed firefighters/ fed police/ nuclear couriers all offer good time for that sweet early retirement and bigger pension

 

[BPM31694]

Long story short: Washed @ my zeee while certifying on my 2nd D side. Went through the NEST, didn't get offered any towers or FSS. Union reps pretty much told me, 'Welp, what can you do?'. ATM was cool, offered me a flight data position, so I've been doing that for a few months now.

My (potentially dumb) question is, do I have a direct path to getting back to a 2152 position with the faa through ERR, or other means? Union isn't being helpful, and anyone else I ask isn't sure or won't give me a straight answer. No tower ratings, so can't do contract, and not interested in joining military

I thought you just needed a single D side certification to get offered a tower? Seems like you got screwed here.

 

[Sir_Unable]

I thought you just needed a single D side certification to get offered a tower? Seems like you got screwed here.

My understanding was 2. You go from AG to D1 after getting 2, and I was always under the impression they will not offer anything unless you’re D1

 

[FredSmoot]

Trainee at my facility washed out with no d-sides and got a list with 40+ facilities I believe.

 

[MMKAY2039]

Go to flight school and become a pilot and make some real money.

 

[DankVectorz]

My understanding was 2. You go from AG to D1 after getting 2, and I was always under the impression they will not offer anything unless you’re D1

Doesn’t that depend on how many positions your area has?

 

[32andBelow]

Trainee at my facility washed out with no d-sides and got a list with 40+ facilities I believe.

Recently? That’s pretty unheard of from what I’ve seen.

 

[washout_throwaway]

Broaden your horizons a bit would be my advice, the agency has many lines of businesses that need people. Retool that resume, use the time you spend at whatever band and looking for similar band positions in a Regional Operations Center, or FSDO offices. There is a lot of upward mobility still, not as much as if you had been certified but still some.

Thanks for the tip. I've already setup multiple usajobs alert for a dozen different 2100 series jobs

 

[GulfCharlie]

Thanks for the tip. I've already setup multiple usajobs alert for a dozen different 2100 series jobs

Look beyond the 2100 series as well, keep an eye on general faa jobs too. Your atm was nice to give you the 2154.

 

[washout_throwaway]

I thought you just needed a single D side certification to get offered a tower? Seems like you got screwed here.

when I see things like this:

Trainee at my facility washed out with no d-sides and got a list with 40+ facilities I believe.

I think you may be right. Looking back, I probably should have dug my heels in more. I had already been in over a year, so it wasn't a probationary issue. but my union rep made it seem like my only options were flight data or a contractor running the sim lab.

 

[FredSmoot]

when I see things like this:

I think you may be right. Looking back, I probably should have dug my heels in more. I had already been in over a year, so it wasn't a probationary issue. but my union rep made it seem like my only options were flight data or a contractor running the sim lab.

Might have been a special case; the individual I’m speaking of worked an admin role in the training dept for almost a year before he got his nest list.

 

[skykid11]

Broaden your horizons a bit would be my advice, the agency has many lines of businesses that need people. Retool that resume, use the time you spend at whatever band and looking for similar band positions in a Regional Operations Center, or FSDO offices. There is a lot of upward mobility still, not as much as if you had been certified but still some.

Don't forget Aircraft Dispatch, Southwest was recently hiring for $98k.

 

[GulfCharlie]

Don't forget Aircraft Dispatch, Southwest was recently hiring for $98k.

BNA Ramp Tower, under RVA, is hiring at $35 an hour as well.

 

[skykid11]

BNA Ramp Tower, under RVA, is hiring at $35 an hour as well.

I wish they were a bit more liberal with Ramp Controller hiring, having a dispatch license and being a CTI grad isn't enough

 

[GulfCharlie]

I wish they were a bit more liberal with Ramp Controller hiring, having a dispatch license and being a CTI grad isn't enough

I'll be honest, I have zero clue what the required certifications are.

 

[Sir_Unable]

Doesn’t that depend on how many positions your area has?

It may vary from center to center. At my Z at least, you need 2 d-sides for D1 regardless of how many sectors in the area.