I just thought maybe your call would go through.I mean you could call the President of the union if you want. I talk to my RVP Brian, not Rich.
I just thought maybe your call would go through.I mean you could call the President of the union if you want. I talk to my RVP Brian, not Rich.
I agree I feel he was cool with our pay until the razewen mvmt started to gain steam across the nationIt feels like the only reason that Rich is offering to open is because the masses have forced his hand. The pressure exerted upon all the candidates has been enormous and they risk the wrath of the membership by extension.
I bet you’re an absolute gem in your RVP’s eyes. Texting/calling him everytime you have a question about Rich so you can put your own interpretation into it and post it in here and Reddit. You sir, respectfully are a nuisance and very few people within these internet ATC forums have aligning thoughts with yours.I mean you could call the President of the union if you want. I talk to my RVP Brian, not Rich.
Ask your rep. Don’t ask your rep. You’re a nuisance. Did you ask your rep?! Or RVP?! You can’t win with you people.I bet you’re an absolute gem in your RVP’s eyes. Texting/calling him everytime you have a question about Rich so you can put your own interpretation into it and post it in here and Reddit. You sir, respectfully are a nuisance and very few people within these internet ATC forums have aligning thoughts with yours.
We are not voting for Rich and none of your fanboy pandering will change our minds. Do yourself a favor and save the energy.
/SIGNED/
-All of us
I just asked the majority of the people on the ATC forums and they support me. They’re mad at you for writing this.I bet you’re an absolute gem in your RVP’s eyes. Texting/calling him everytime you have a question about Rich so you can put your own interpretation into it and post it in here and Reddit. You sir, respectfully are a nuisance and very few people within these internet ATC forums have aligning thoughts with yours.
We are not voting for Rich and none of your fanboy pandering will change our minds. Do yourself a favor and save the energy.
/SIGNED/
-All of us
Luckily that’s the point, if you want to keep your job, you better listen to those you work for! Might be too little too late but I’m happy to see the point is being made that we NEED to address pay. Period.It feels like the only reason that Rich is offering to open is because the masses have forced his hand. The pressure exerted upon all the candidates has been enormous and they risk the wrath of the membership by extension.
Truly curious. Does anyone have an actual thought on what could be a realistic raise that could be negotiated? I’d love 50% but I’m also a realist. Love to hear anyone who is smarter than me that could give me a number pointing to history as to why!
You people? All I did was highlight the fact that he [Lenny] seems to think that his RVP has to answer his every beck & call inquiry and then posts it online… which is probably really annoying. I didn’t say anything else about communicating with an RVP or not…?Ask your rep. Don’t ask your rep. You’re a nuisance. Did you ask your rep?! Or RVP?! You can’t win with you people.
Oblige us with this, “majority.” All I’ve seen on here is you getting drug because you can’t wipe the Rich Santa stars out of your eyes. And you might as well just proclaim yourself .65 prez, you’ve already done the same thing in Reddit and it was an absolute fucking laughing stock.I just asked the majority of the people on the ATC forums and they support me. They’re mad at you for writing this.
I may run for President of .65 and hold office here and on Reddit we’ll see
The realistic situation is our contract is not getting extended. All 3 NATCA candidates are campaigning on not extending. The real world shit is that the FAA has no intention to extend. The last 2 contract negotiations (red and slate book) both open with the FAA offering split pay bands. The next negotiations will be no different. With the FAA not requesting more appropriations, they will claim the need to cut pay of new hires to be able to afford the hiring numbers forced in FAA Reauthorization. This is all tip of the iceberg shit if Trump wins. Biden has done jack shit for us. Trump without Meadows will try to destroy us.Luckily that’s the point, if you want to keep your job, you better listen to those you work for! Might be too little too late but I’m happy to see the point is being made that we NEED to address pay. Period.
Truly curious. Does anyone have an actual thought on what could be a realistic raise that could be negotiated? I’d love 50% but I’m also a realist. Love to hear anyone who is smarter than me that could give me a number pointing to history as to why!
I agree with this take, except that the FAA doesn’t need to claim more appropriations now. With the passing of the FAA Reauth Bill and shortly being signed into law, the FAA will arbitrarily get $105 billion toward all of the outlined goals in the bill.The realistic situation is our contract is not getting extended. All 3 NATCA candidates are campaigning on not extending. The real world shit is that the FAA has no intention to extend. The last 2 contract negotiations (red and slate book) both open with the FAA offering split pay bands. The next negotiations will be no different. With the FAA not requesting more appropriations, they will claim the need to cut pay of new hires to be able to afford the hiring numbers forced in FAA Reauthorization. This is all tip of the iceberg shit if Trump wins. Biden has done jack shit for us. Trump without Meadows will try to destroy us.
The number one go to bullshit line by NATCA when they don’t communicate is. “Did you ask him?!”You people? All I did was highlight the fact that he [Lenny] seems to think that his RVP has to answer his every beck & call inquiry and then posts it online… which is probably really annoying. I didn’t say anything else about communicating with an RVP or not…?
Oblige us with this, “majority.” All I’ve seen on here is you getting drug because you can’t wipe the Rich Santa stars out of your eyes.
Ahh I see what you’re saying, and you’re right af there. I was just attacking Lenny for constantly bothering his RVP in the name of being a Rich Santa simp. My energy ends there lol.The number one go to bullshit line by NATCA when they don’t communicate is. “Did you ask him?!”
I may run for President of .65
Lol you run unopposed... Even an idiot like you can do that... Being president of a loser sub like atc2 and winning unopposed... Lame. You are trying to hard for rich and mike... And it is nauseatingI just asked the majority of the people on the ATC forums and they support me. They’re mad at you for writing this.
I may run for President of .65 and hold office here and on Reddit we’ll see
Then let him destroy us and see what happens to the industry. Stop being a scared bitch.The realistic situation is our contract is not getting extended. All 3 NATCA candidates are campaigning on not extending. The real world shit is that the FAA has no intention to extend. The last 2 contract negotiations (red and slate book) both open with the FAA offering split pay bands. The next negotiations will be no different. With the FAA not requesting more appropriations, they will claim the need to cut pay of new hires to be able to afford the hiring numbers forced in FAA Reauthorization. This is all tip of the iceberg shit if Trump wins. Biden has done jack shit for us. Trump without Meadows will try to destroy us.
This is one piece of information we have. I’m sure there’s better ones if you go digging.Truly curious. Does anyone have an actual thought on what could be a realistic raise that could be negotiated? I’d love 50% but I’m also a realist. Love to hear anyone who is smarter than me that could give me a number pointing to history as to why!
Nothing will happen to industry ? They’ll just force you to do it how they want.Then let him destroy us and see what happens to the industry. Stop being a scared bitch.
one of the stranger side effects of brain worms is making people think they can be president
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Where do you get the claim they aren’t asking for more appropriations?The realistic situation is our contract is not getting extended. All 3 NATCA candidates are campaigning on not extending. The real world shit is that the FAA has no intention to extend. The last 2 contract negotiations (red and slate book) both open with the FAA offering split pay bands. The next negotiations will be no different. With the FAA not requesting more appropriations, they will claim the need to cut pay of new hires to be able to afford the hiring numbers forced in FAA Reauthorization. This is all tip of the iceberg shit if Trump wins. Biden has done jack shit for us. Trump without Meadows will try to destroy us.
The FAA budget request for FY2024 is in line with the slight bump in requested money it has asked for over the past 5 years. There is not a significant increase in operations appropriations to cover the kind of hiring NATCA wants. FAA appropriations needs were also discussed at NiW this year. And this is just a request... Congress has to actually appropriate the money.Where do you get the claim they aren’t asking for more appropriations?
must have been before the Reauth Bill. Here is the FY25 request.The FAA budget request for FY2024 is in line with the slight bump in requested money it has asked for over the past 5 years. There is not a significant increase in operations appropriations to cover the kind of hiring NATCA wants. FAA appropriations needs were also discussed at NiW this year. And this is just a request... Congress has to actually appropriate the money. View attachment 9567View attachment 9568