Shoot The Breeze

[Southern]

All this talk of furloughs is bull shit, where did it even come from? No new information to support it. Unfortunately if OJTI don’t start within a month or so though they will table it until the spring. So there might be big news regarding that soon. But then the trainees can just keep sitting at home, they won’t get “furloughed”. At least they will know what situation they are in for months and can get a second job in the meantime, double dip. If anyone says “you can’t do that on excused leave time” tell them to fuck off and if they don’t like it get you back in the building to train.

If it’s any consolation, I heard from a supervisor directly they’re aiming to phase trainees back in starting in September. Only thing that would prevent this from happening would be a delay in the PPE or evidence that the PPE truly was causing more harm than good, but according to the sup the tests went extremely well and they’re feeling pretty confident about the September timeframe.

 

[Soss]

If it’s any consolation, I heard from a supervisor directly they’re aiming to phase trainees back in starting in September. Only thing that would prevent this from happening would be a delay in the PPE or evidence that the PPE truly was causing more harm than good, but according to the sup the tests went extremely well and they’re feeling pretty confident about the September timeframe.

This is also consistent with what I heard last week.

Juicy training deets: Hope is to go back 8/16, probably will be delayed but sounds like it’s coming. They will have people come in waves, closest to CPC is priority on down. No talk of furloughs yet but gotta keep the zoom classes zooming or we don’t get paid. Face shields were tested and approved by Natca, may be on back order which is why we might be delayed. Ojt’s will work the traffic they have, not the traffic they had, might take longer for certs.

 

[JNev]

Would furloughs be for anyone without any facility certs? Even transferred CPCs? :gulp:

 

[Southern]

This is also consistent with what I heard last week.

Yeah, 8/16 isn’t gonna happen. They were aiming for mid to late September. Sounded promising for trainees however they did note it wasn’t “official” so that date could/probably will change.

 

[Phillytroll69]

This is also consistent with what I heard last week.

Dawg you 'missed the detail' about the police chief and on here throwing shade and bs don't know if I'd ask for intricate details about faa master plans from you

 

[Soss]

Dawg you 'missed the detail' about the police chief and on here throwing shade and bs don't know if I'd ask for intricate details about faa master plans from you

If you're asking for intricate details on the FAA master plan on a thread called "Shoot the Shit" on a forum then you sir are a copulating simpleton

 

[Southern]

Dawg you 'missed the detail' about the police chief and on here throwing shade and bs don't know if I'd ask for intricate details about faa master plans from you

I am pretty sure I had a stroke trying to read your message.

 

[mnsalty]

Not sure why you tagged me, I agree with the statement that an increase in pax count doesn't mean more planes are flying.

i must be imagining it was you arguing with me that pax counts directly means more planes 1:1. sorry.

If it’s any consolation, I heard from a supervisor directly they’re aiming to phase trainees back in starting in September. Only thing that would prevent this from happening would be a delay in the PPE or evidence that the PPE truly was causing more harm than good, but according to the sup the tests went extremely well and they’re feeling pretty confident about the September timeframe.

Oh yes the magical supervisors who are about as useless as natca reps.

but in all seriousness, many facilities are allowing people to go in for admin purposes... my level 4 tower got a new person and they need to go pick up their ipad from the staff specialists. I'm sure the natca rep had an aneurysm.

edit: shit. missed my chance on this. roll the natca gag "training isn't even being discussed." .... well someone is discussing it.... ^^^^^

 

[32andBelow]

Unfortunately it sounds like furloughs are coming to anyone who wasn’t certified on any positions. Here at the center the thought is that they are last resort and that they will be offered to come back once new academy grads come through, finish maps, class room non radar, and finally make it to the lab. Then they will slowly funnel in the previous trainees into academy grad radar classes. I think facility is hoping to use them to pump up their budget for the training department. My question is will furloughed employees be locked into their previous FERS contribution or will they have to pay whatever the new rate is the new hires pay assuming it keeps going up?

Yah the academy keeps placing people but they are planning furloughs

 

[Super Salt]

Oh yes the magical supervisors who are about as useless as natca reps.

but in all seriousness, many facilities are allowing people to go in for admin purposes... my level 4 tower got a new person and they need to go pick up their ipad from the staff specialists. I'm sure the natca rep had an aneurysm.

edit: shit. missed my chance on this. roll the natca gag "training isn't even being discussed." .... well someone is discussing it.... ^^^^^

All level 4 ATCT have been either closed or contracted out. That’s why you haven’t heard any updates.

 

[32andBelow]

If it’s any consolation, I heard from a supervisor directly they’re aiming to phase trainees back in starting in September. Only thing that would prevent this from happening would be a delay in the PPE or evidence that the PPE truly was causing more harm than good, but according to the sup the tests went extremely well and they’re feeling pretty confident about the September timeframe.

I had to d side next to an atc zero CPC. Still unsafe to train.

 

[mnsalty]

All level 4 ATCT have been either closed or contracted out. That’s why you haven’t heard any updates.

nice try, management.

 

[PushingTin]

someone post somehting interesting im bored. ive blocked too many of the Dbags csucker mfers and now have no entertainment

 

[32andBelow]

someone post somehting interesting im bored. ive blocked too many of the Dbags csucker mfers and now have no entertainment

Mike pence is going to have to get permission from his wife to debate Kamala

 

[Southern]

I had to d side next to an atc zero CPC. Still unsafe to train.

Good to know you think it’s so unsafe to train, I’m sure the FAA and NATCA (who I hear you LOVE) appreciate your input.

 

[32andBelow]

Good to know you think it’s so unsafe to train, I’m sure the FAA and NATCA (who I hear you LOVE) appreciate your input.

I would get covid to train again

 

[PushingTin]

Mike pence is going to have to get permission from his wife to debate Kamala

NO. Christian man who fears no evil.

Kamala back in the Willie brown days, on the come up...

 

[Gusher]

Because when you move goalposts everything is reasonable

What was her experience compared to his? I make $100k more than some of my peers, but I also have 30 years experience while they have significantly less. Whole story and whole picture please instead of black/white, man/woman, let’s add in experience to see what the real difference is. Yes if they had similar resume/experience, they should make equal pay. If she had significantly less than him, no issue.

 

[CaptainObvious]

I had to d side next to an atc zero CPC. Still unsafe to train.

Why

 

[32andBelow]

Why

Why what