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[DankVectorz]

This may be a more basic question than I realize, but someone the other day was asking me why all the enroute facilities aren’t all together in just some sort of super center. Only thing I could think of would be a national security threat in case everything went down. Anyone have a more educated guess?

yes it’s to prevent everything being taken out at once. Same reason Tracons and centers are supposed to be a certain distance apart so 1 nuke doesn’t get em both. Imagine if what happened at ZAU happened at a consolidated super center.

 

[GulfCharlie]

yes it’s to prevent everything being taken out at once. Same reason Tracons and centers are supposed to be a certain distance apart so 1 nuke doesn’t get em both. Imagine if what happened at ZAU happened at a consolidated super center.

Not like retasking Russian nukes takes long anyway *chuckles*

 

[32andBelow]

Anyone else’s facility negotiating trying to go back to 5/10? We switched to 5/5 about a month ago for an “anticipated” 20-30% increase in traffic... it wasn’t much.
A bunch of controllers here wanna go back.... I’m at a core 30

Sounds like I won’t finish training until 2024.
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You guys just trying to prove you can do the job with 1/3 of the people. Lmao.

 

[aaran34]

This may be a more basic question than I realize, but someone the other day was asking me why all the enroute facilities aren’t all together in just some sort of super center. Only thing I could think of would be a national security threat in case everything went down. Anyone have a more educated guess?

My guess is it’s a logistics thing. 21 Centers: roughly 6 areas per center, 6-9 sectors per area. Let’s just say 42 sectors for every center. That’s 882 sectors in one building. You would still need 4000-5000 controllers to run that amount of sectors.

Now think equipment: radar sites, frequency sites, landlines, etc. Getting a single center outfitted to communicate to every terminal facility it needs to around the country and provide reliable radar/frequencies would be a nightmare. Although I do remember rumors about 4 supercenters when I first started.

 

[32andBelow]

My guess is it’s a logistics thing. 21 Centers: roughly 6 areas per center, 6-9 sectors per area. Let’s just say 42 sectors for every center. That’s 882 sectors in one building. You would still need 4000-5000 controllers to run that amount of sectors.

Now think equipment: radar sites, frequency sites, landlines, etc. Getting a single center outfitted to communicate to every terminal facility it needs to around the country and provide reliable radar/frequencies would be a nightmare. Although I do remember rumors about 4 supercenters when I first started.

You’d need a lot of break rooms

 

[aaran34]

You’d need a lot of break rooms

Easy fix, the FAA can build an ATC Campus modeled after Google Campus. Of course it would be in the most desirable of places and we’d get paid 5x as much. We could even bring some of the trainees along.

 

[mnsalty]

Same reason Tracons and centers are supposed to be a certain distance apart so 1 nuke doesn’t get em both.

At least then you'd get hazard pay?

 

[PushingTin]

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[ClearanceClarence]

9 out 10 people bitch about where they end up after placement as it is. Could you imagine the despair if there was only one option at a Super Center and no opportunities to ever transfer? And let’s be real, the FAA put their training headquarters in Oklahoma decades ago when it was even worse than it is now. If there was ever a Super Center, they would end up putting it in some corn field in Nebraska.

 

[PushingTin]

9 out 10 people bitch about where they end up after placement as it is. Could you imagine the despair if there was only one option at a Super Center and no opportunities to ever transfer? And let’s be real, the FAA put their training headquarters in Oklahoma decades ago when it was even worse than it is now. If there was ever a Super Center, they would end up putting it in some corn field in Nebraska.

work from home sector or STFU. its 2020 lets GOOO

 

[RH316]

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yuuuuuge crush ?

 

[HenryTheAce]

If super centers ever happen... I’m going back to the center life in a heartbeat. That’d be a blast

 

[CF]

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[PushingTin]

If super centers ever happen... I’m going back to the center life in a heartbeat. That’d be a blast

same ?

send it somewhere good and not an urban shithole full of Antifa. Traverse city plz

 

[PushingTin]

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zOMG. u cray bro

 

[ClearanceClarence]

Heck forget about a Super Center, can we just replace the 1960’s fallout shelter buildings that currently serve as ARTCCs?

 

[Shikaka]

You’d need a lot of break rooms

You guys... have...a break...room?

 

[32andBelow]

You guys... have...a break...room?

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Natca
Sleeping
Upstairs office ppl.
There might be more I haven’t found

 

[HenryTheAce]

same ?

send it somewhere good and not an urban shithole full of Antifa. Traverse city plz

That’d be amazing. Just cram that city with 4000+ controllers... I’m buying some property and building a bar close to that facility if it ever happens.

 

[PushingTin]

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Stay out trainee! i'll tell ur trainer and no one will sit w you in the caf

That’d be amazing. Just cram that city with 4000+ controllers... I’m buying some property and building a bar close to that facility if it ever happens.

honestly anywhere thats NOT Long Island, orange county, Cook County, Fulton/Dekalb etc. Some sleepy place with recreation where you can live like a king on ARTCC pay and call it a country club