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ah damn that may be it. Mixed up taser and mace.
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ah damn that may be it. Mixed up taser and mace.
SharkBait
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Yeah, unfortunate and a lot of different factors went into it but was deemed justified. I dont think you will ever convince a jury that mace is considered a deadly threat, this dude going to prison for a long time.
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While that is true, you have to look at what could happen while you are incapacitated from the mace and what can “reasonably” be assumed the intentions of the guy and/or mob might be. In Colorado to use deadly force you MUST believe you are in imminent danger of loss of life or extreme bodily injury or something to that tune.
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I mean yall are aware you can hold a viewpoint and still do your job separate from that right? Like how many anti big government "libertarians" are there here on this very forum who work for the big bad government in a capacity that some argue can be privatized?
I'm curious what the opinion of the dudes on here calling this dude a commie antifa terrorist or whatever is of Kyle Rittenhouse.
Dude has been lionized by the far right for shooting 3 people for getting a bag thrown at him, but this guy apparently is now in the wrong before we really know anything at all, aside from the fact he was actually a hired security guard (as opposed to some dude who just kinda showed up) for a journo in a crowd of people who think most journalists are the "bad guys", and are known to get physical and have weapons? If I squint really hard, knowing what we know now, this seems less bad to me.
Besides, why the hell was dude macing a journalist to begin with? Not that he deserves to be shot for it, but I highly doubt he was an upstanding American totally there to peacefully protest and do the right thing if he's popping off mace at the press.
This country is broken, and the fact that people spraying each other with bear mace is an accepted tactic from one side now isn't helping and has lead to at least two shootings, and I'm sure this will lead to more bullshit.
I'm curious what the opinion of the dudes on here calling this dude a commie antifa terrorist or whatever is of Kyle Rittenhouse.
Dude has been lionized by the far right for shooting 3 people for getting a bag thrown at him, but this guy apparently is now in the wrong before we really know anything at all, aside from the fact he was actually a hired security guard (as opposed to some dude who just kinda showed up) for a journo in a crowd of people who think most journalists are the "bad guys", and are known to get physical and have weapons? If I squint really hard, knowing what we know now, this seems less bad to me.
Besides, why the hell was dude macing a journalist to begin with? Not that he deserves to be shot for it, but I highly doubt he was an upstanding American totally there to peacefully protest and do the right thing if he's popping off mace at the press.
This country is broken, and the fact that people spraying each other with bear mace is an accepted tactic from one side now isn't helping and has lead to at least two shootings, and I'm sure this will lead to more bullshit.
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kyle rittenhouse is a criminal (the possession part) and he knew what he was getting into when he's going to counterprotest right next to people who don't like him.
the people that threw stuff, chased him, and hit him with a skateboard are also criminals, and idiots, because a) you shouldn't be assaulting people ever and b) why would you attack someone that has a rifle
the Denver shooter has ties to the far left.
i can't say whether he or rittenhouse acted in self defense or not because that's a decision for the jury to make.
i also noticed you were saying that the 'dude maced a journalist'. nobody is actually sure what the details are. i just watched the video again and you can hear the mace go off and then a *split second* later you can hear the gunshot. therefore i think it's reasonable to say that both people had their weapons aimed at each other, and its more accurate to say the dude maced a security guard (not a journalist) that had a gun pointed at him. so... if it were me and I had a gun pointed at me, i'd probably stand down and attempt to de-escalate, otherwise yes i'd fire the mace. and actually tbh I think its a bit silly to refer to him as a security guard. the guy was in a t-shirt and jeans not a uniform, he probably looked like the other denver communists.
idk anymore. why don't these guys just stop counterprotesting right next to each other all its going to lead to is more violence. its not like the people that have such strong convictions that they would go out and attend these events are going to change their minds anyway
edit: media ID'd the shooters name. its Matthew dolloff, didn't wanna say it earlier cuz that would be doxxing Denver police identify shooter
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Havent you tried calling me out for this very same ideology like 20 times on here? Lol
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Outside of a 4chan post, what evidence do you have that this dude was some sort of radical leftist? You'll have to excuse me for not placing a lot of faith in the journalistic integrity of 4chan lol. Not exactly paragons of unbiased truth over there, hitting us with hard facts like qanon and racist pepe shit posts. The actual news article you posted from the local fox subsidiary makes no mention of him having any sort of leftist ties, and I haven't seen anything else stating that off of this board.
Outside of that, again, having a left/liberal ideology (if that is in fact the case) doesn't preclude you from having a job as an armed security guard, not does it automatically make you some sort radical if you discharge your firearm while doing your job (justified shoot or not).
As far as the events leading up to the shooting etc, fact is we don't know, based on a 5 second video on Twitter and the current reporting. The only things we do know is the dude was hired by the news agency, he was standing next to the reporter he was charged with protecting, and a right wing protester shot at him or them with mace before the gun went off, not after. Everything else is postulation on your part, based on a 4chan post, apparently.
Also can you explain exactly what a Denver communist dresses like? Looks like he was wearing regular old street clothes, and it's not uncommon for bodyguards to blend in with the crowd they are going to be in or the people they are going to be protecting.
As far as protests of warring ideologies right next to one another, I agree. Something to keep in mind is outside agitators have set things up like this in the past to cause unrest. That said, again, this wasn't left v right. As far as the facts we have right now, it was right vs. The free press, and maybe (probably?) a bad shoot on behalf of a security guard.
The fact the dude got shot doesn't clear him of any wrongdoing as far as macing people at protests imho though. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. You can't go around spraying mace and shooting people with paintballs with impunity and think you are invincible because you "back the blue" or whatever. That's dumb and counterproductive and I don't feel bad for him.
Yep. I was thinking of you when I typed this boo. Yet you still do your job for big daddy gov, which is exactly my point.
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A and B are discussing their love for the movie “The Conjuring”. Controller C jumps in and tells both A and B “you need to bathe yourself in the blood of Christ to save yourself”
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A and B are discussing their love for the movie “The Conjuring”. Controller C jumps in and tells both A and B “you need to bathe yourself in the blood of Christ to save yourself”
Solve for X. Show your work.
If I was rich enough to bathe in wine blessed by a priest I would do it.
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What a nothing of an article.
“Turns out shutdowns are bad for tourism.”
I think we’d all like a different “primary method” for controlling the virus, but what effort has been put into that? The only thing discussed is shutdown or no shutdown, mask mandate or no make mandate...
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Guess I kinda figured all this talk about mental health that people might care about how the forced shutdowns will affect the country.
"Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health."
Oh suicides have spiked, alongside those that are usually staved off from exercise or eating better...good luck in these times.
For sure, I care; this thing has been a huge tragedy in several ways. These shutdowns and subsequent mental health issues are a symptom of how poorly this pandemic has been handled (at every level). The problem with this statement from the WHO is that all anyone will hear is “shutdowns bad,” and there’s a lot more to this problem than that.
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Since when has America cared in the slightest about mental health?
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They say you should wear a mask too soooooo..... Are we all on board with masks now?
Also I thought the WHO was bad and spreading misinformation about the virus, and thats why a certain someone was trying to divest the USA from it?
I don't think a single person is arguing for a forever lockdown, or really even a return to any lockdown unless things get really out of control again, so I'm not sure what it is you are getting at here.
I mean obviously any sort of isolation is going to have a negative affect on people (reference the torture that is long term solitary confinement in prisons) and is bad for any economy especially one based on service jobs and travel like he mentioned, so ya...i really don't see why this article is a shocker to anyone, aside from those whohaven't been paying attention to the WHO until they agreed on one aspect of thier chosen viewpoint. I think everyone has acknowledged all of these things already, I don't see the relevance.
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