Alfa Mike said:Another example is if local hands off the wrong butter bar to ground & ground doesn’t notice
To add: And/or if Ground places the butter bar down on the table instead of in the hands of local. That’s been an issue before.
Ground letting go of the butter bar before local gives ground their initials for crossing complete acknowledgment.
Anything can happen
And/Or ground sends local a terrible departure sequence
TermLimits said:And/Or ground sends local a terrible departure sequence
And if ground takes forever to taxi the aircraft that just exited the runway. Leaving local resort to other taxiways, causing delays on their departures and hitting their holes.
Ground can hurt local, and local can hurt ground. It’s crazy
MalIvo831 said:Ground can hurt local, and local can hurt ground. It’s crazy
Just like it is in the real world....
The only points I lost on ground were because my local controller was going down the tubes and wouldn’t let me cross a vehicle. I asked repeatedly and never got the crossing, so my evaluator docked me 5 points because I was never able to get the vehicle across. ? that guy ended up with a negative score on that round.
Bird.Person said:The only points I lost on ground were because my local controller was going down the tubes and wouldn’t let me cross a vehicle. I asked repeatedly and never got the crossing, so my evaluator docked me 5 points because I was never able to get the vehicle across. ? that guy ended up with a negative score on that round.
For clarification, the lowest score you can receive in the PA's is 0 for those who are new to the process.
Bird.Person said:The only points I lost on ground were because my local controller was going down the tubes and wouldn’t let me cross a vehicle. I asked repeatedly and never got the crossing, so my evaluator docked me 5 points because I was never able to get the vehicle across. ? that guy ended up with a negative score on that round.
My evaluator specifically told me I didn't lose points for that because I made the coordination attempt multiple times and it's on local at that point.
GulfBravoPapa said:Just like it is in the real world....
Nah just stay at the lower levels and local can do it all by themselves
Bird.Person said:The only points I lost on ground were because my local controller was going down the tubes and wouldn’t let me cross a vehicle. I asked repeatedly and never got the crossing, so my evaluator docked me 5 points because I was never able to get the vehicle across. ? that guy ended up with a negative score on that round.
Yeah your evaluator was wrong. As long as you keep asking for a crossing you shouldn’t lose points. I forget the time frame but maybe it was every 5 minutes? But it’s something like as long as you ask every 5 minutes or whatever the time frame is it counts as an attempt. But if you only ask once and don’t ask again then you can get delays
redsphanatic said:For clarification, the lowest score you can receive in the PA's is 0 for those who are new to the process.
You might want to double check. I know people that scored in the negatives. They failed of course, but the graders gave them a negative score.
flypilot said:Yeah your evaluator was wrong. As long as you keep asking for a crossing you shouldn’t lose points. I forget the time frame but maybe it was every 5 minutes? But it’s something like as long as you ask every 5 minutes or whatever the time frame is it counts as an attempt. But if you only ask once and don’t ask again then you can get delays
You’re right. QA will start their 5 minutes when they see there is an opportunity to cross. Then they’ll dock the points.
If ground only asked for the crossing one time. I can definitely see that being a reason it’s dock points
MalIvo831 said:You might want to double check. I know people that scored in the negatives. They failed of course, but the graders gave them a negative score.
You can lose so many points your score is in the negatives but your official grade is a 0.
did anyone get a basics start date of 10/07?
Robert_Boucher said:You can lose so many points your score is in the negatives but your official grade is a 0.
Even if you had 10 separation errors (16 points a piece), you will get docked for losing 160 points but the final grade would be corrected to 0.
redsphanatic said:Even if you had 10 separation errors (16 points a piece), you will get docked for losing 160 points but the final grade would be corrected to 0.
They do still log the lost 160 points though, so if you manage to appeal one of those sep errors and get 16 points back your score would remain 0 not go up to 16.
mj123 said:did anyone get a basics start date of 10/07?
Yeah a few people on the discord
Hope said:Yeah a few people on the discord
how can i find the discord?
Placement 9/30 list
Mandatory: JNU
Mandatory: JNU
MMU
AVP
LNK
STP
LVK
POU
SBN
LAN
EMT
SJC
Alternates:
SJU
SJU
22papa said:Placement 9/30 list
Mandatory: JNU
Mandatory: JNU
MMU
AVP
LNK
STP
LVK
POU
SBN
LAN
EMT
SJCAlternates:
SJU
SJU
Rather Puerto Rico over Alaska no?
Qwertymnbv said:Rather Puerto Rico over Alaska no?
A billion times yes besides a lot of the territory still being without electric but San Juan is fun.
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