Terminal Class pass rate

[Super Salt]

SHV

 

[kombucha23]

Well fuck me dude I know where more cities are than identifiers at first glance.

TUL
YNG
TWF

^^that shit is annoying. I agree that b and c level cities can be difficult to differentiate, but how the hell do you know where all these identifiers are. Am I in the minority as someone that isn't sitting at a PC right now? I haven't used a pc for anything other than a printer interface in years.

When I Google three letters I often get stupid results.

Maybe we do both? Or write city and state? Half the time I forget what ack and maf are, but that's probably because of the black holes sucking my memory from my head

Tulsa, Youngstown, Twin Falls? I’m at home. Guessing. No idea where Youngstown is, if that even is that one.

When I look up an airport, I type “TUL airnav”. Automatically changes the results you get.

Shreveport to the other guy. I think.

 

[TreeFowerFife]

Hey I’m not at FCM lol but I really wanted to go there. But I’m from Minnesota lol

I hear you! I'm from Saint Paul and I woulda killed for FCM, MIC, or STP. Couldn't care less that they're LVL 4/5's. RST and DLH also would have been great.

 

[MJ]

there's like 73 different ways to find a facility on this site

 

[Morgan_Freeman_But_Not]

there's like 73 different ways to find a facility on this site

Wait...we can find facilities here?

 

[Tater_Toad]

there's like 73 different ways to find a facility on this site

Name 47

Tulsa, Youngstown, Twin Falls? I’m at home. Guessing. No idea where Youngstown is, if that even is that one.

When I look up an airport, I type “TUL airnav”. Automatically changes the results you get.

Shreveport to the other guy. I think.

I'll have to try the airnav trick. I've been googling "TUL tower" and I often get hotels and stupid shit, sometimes in other countries.

I know there's a bunch of ways to find it, but damn I thought this was america. Where's the instant gratification? Why should I have to work for what I want?

 

[32andBelow]

Name 47


I'll have to try the airnav trick. I've been googling "TUL tower" and I often get hotels and stupid shit, sometimes in other countries.

I know there's a bunch of ways to find it, but damn I thought this was america. Where's the instant gratification? Why should I have to work for what I want?

I mean you’ll want to learn the identifiers for the job

 

[Tater_Toad]

I mean you’ll want to learn the identifiers for the job

I can guess a bunch of them, but there's a bunch of these cities I've never heard of. To be fair I was 20 before I had heard of Seattle.

Why exactly would a controller need to know all of the facility identifiers in the nas?

 

[Spaceforce]

Name 47


I'll have to try the airnav trick. I've been googling "TUL tower" and I often get hotels and stupid shit, sometimes in other countries.

Try “TUL airport”
Or SHV airport. Just google map exactly this and it works every time.
Also you’ll need to learn a bunch of identifiers in and around your airspace. Because sometimes you’re gonna need to look at a strip and know it’s left or right and get planes climbing and going.

 

[32andBelow]

I can guess a bunch of them, but there's a bunch of these cities I've never heard of. To be fair I was 20 before I had heard of Seattle.

Why exactly would a controller need to know all of the facility identifiers in the nas?

So you can give clearances and sound like you know what you are doing.

 

[Tater_Toad]

Try “TUL airport”
Or SHV airport. Just google map exactly this and it works every time.
Also you’ll need to learn a bunch of identifiers in and around your airspace. Because sometimes you’re gonna need to look at a strip and know it’s left or right and get planes climbing and going.

I've just been using regular Google search, map app might be the trick.

 

[Super Salt]

I can guess a bunch of them, but there's a bunch of these cities I've never heard of. To be fair I was 20 before I had heard of Seattle.

Why exactly would a controller need to know all of the facility identifiers in the nas?

10/10 troll. I applaud you.

 

[TreeFowerFife]

Guys, honest to god can't tell if ya'll are trolling right now or not.

In the case you're not, top right of the very web page you're looking at you will see a search link. Click that. Type in the identifier. Search. Click the identifier in search results. Here lies the holy information of said facility - Pay, staffing (lack there of), training success percentage, avg training time, NCEPT info (zero releases, duh). There's even the facility address you can copy and paste into google maps as well as a phone number to call if you dare.

Abra-kadabra you have now unlocked the true power of this website.

 

[32andBelow]

Guys, honest to god can't tell if ya'll are trolling right now or not.

In the case you're not, top right of the very web page you're looking at you will see a search link. Click that. Type in the identifier. Search. Click the identifier in search results. Here lies the holy information of said facility - Pay, staffing (lack there of), training success percentage, avg training time, NCEPT info (zero releases, obviously). There's even the facility address you can copy and paste into google maps as well as a phone number to call if you dare.

Abra-kadabra you have now unlocked the true power of this website.

I used to get scarred of training percentage till I met the people in training percentage

 

[TreeFowerFife]

I used to get scarred of training percentage till I met the people in training percentage

? seriously. However I do vividly remember choking on my coffee the morning I looked at the ZNY page. Thought my eyes were broken. They're not the only facility in the 30's but pretty sure that's the worst in the NAS.

 

[Shikaka]

Name 47

Bold of you to assume I'm knowledgeable of how many that is to begin with

 

[Homsar]

I used to get scarred of training percentage till I met the people in training percentage

Seeing low checkout rates at 11s/12s is one thing, but ~50-60% rates at level 5/6s is nuts, and shows that something wrong is going on there.

 

[Termine]

On the topic of training percentage, I saw someone (probably Stinger) once say that they only update those numbers once a certain portion of a particular bid or year has either CPC'd or washed out. So for example none of the numbers anywhere reflect any data newer than 2018, or whatever it is, because not enough 2018 hires have completed training. Once they have, only then will the numbers all be recalculated.

Also, hardships count as training failures, and so do non-CPCs who get picked up on ERRs (though that's a rarity). So the number of people hardshipping out of ZNY and ZOA counts for at least a part of their abysmal training rates.

 

[Super Salt]

On the topic of training percentage, I saw someone (probably Stinger) once say that they only update those numbers once a certain portion of a particular bid or year has either CPC'd or washed out. So for example none of the numbers anywhere reflect any data newer than 2018, or whatever it is, because not enough 2018 hires have completed training. Once they have, only then will the numbers all be recalculated.

Also, hardships count as training failures, and so do non-CPCs who get picked up on ERRs (though that's a rarity). So the number of people hardshipping out of ZNY and ZOA counts for at least a part of their abysmal training rates.

I believe the ratio for success/failure percentages is 5 years.

Hardships for DEVs is only counted within the ratio too (I believe), otherwise there’d be a lot of low level facilities with horrible success rates.

 

[32andBelow]

On the topic of training percentage, I saw someone (probably Stinger) once say that they only update those numbers once a certain portion of a particular bid or year has either CPC'd or washed out. So for example none of the numbers anywhere reflect any data newer than 2018, or whatever it is, because not enough 2018 hires have completed training. Once they have, only then will the numbers all be recalculated.

Also, hardships count as training failures, and so do non-CPCs who get picked up on ERRs (though that's a rarity). So the number of people hardshipping out of ZNY and ZOA counts for at least a part of their abysmal training rates.

I watched mine drop like 15% cus or 2 ppl that had no business being there.