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Well, NATCA email just said National Training Initiative and OJTI suspension is extended until May 15 so looks like it’s at least another month to go.
 
NN9419 said:
Well, NATCA email just said National Training Initiative and OJTI suspension is extended until May 15 so looks like it’s at least another month to go.
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It’s not gonna matter when trump sends us all back. The Faa cant override the president.
 
32andBelow said:
It’s not gonna matter when trump sends us all back. The Faa cant override the president.
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Has he ever indicated he wants to send federal employees back across the board nation wide? The guidelines they came out with yesterday seemed to make it pretty clear he wants to pass the buck to the Governors, and if anything, it’s going to be regionally based decisions. I can’t see him putting out those guidelines and then just demanding every non-essential worker in the Fed system go back to work immediately.
 
NN9419 said:
Has he ever indicated he wants to send federal employees back across the board nation wide? The guidelines they came out with yesterday seemed to make it pretty clear he wants to pass the buck to the Governors, and if anything, it’s going to be regionally based decisions. I can’t see him putting out those guidelines and then just demanding every non-essential worker in the Fed system go back to work immediately.
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Don't ruin the narrative /s
 
GulfBravoPapa said:
Don't ruin the narrative /s
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I’m just sayin, I think the way things were handled in yesterday’s announcement made it pretty clear the Administration wants to limit liability 7 months before an election. If POTUS had stuck towards what he was hinting at a few weeks ago with overruling everybody and throwing the floodgates open, it would have looked very bad if things flared back up. Now it’s all on state/local officials to decide how to handle things. If the City of Bumblefuck decides to open and a month later their hospitals are overflowing, it’s on the mayor of that town. It’s a pretty brilliant political move honestly. He’s not going to jeopardize that by saying every federal employee needs to get their butts to work tomorrow.
 
That is how it should be, states and cities making their own decisions. Just like I feel it’s the states and city’s responsibility for COVID response. The federal government should be there to support the states. Not do everything for them.

That said, if the FAA said each facility can choose when to go back to full staffing every one of them will recall all personnel. Imo anyway.
 
How can state governors send federal employees back? I don’t think a governor can say ok this federal agency that is in ya state can work. Federal employees is the only way he can really “reopen” the economy from his position.
 
32andBelow said:
How can state governors send federal employees back? I don’t think a governor can say ok this federal agency that is in ya state can work. Federal employees is the only way he can really “reopen” the economy from his position.
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If I had to guess, I’d bet they’ll just break things down at the Federal level as well. Let each department/agency make their own decisions, and then each of them will probably decide on a case by case basis. I’d assume a lot of those case by case decisions will be made with consideration to what’s going on at each facility’s given location. For example, you could probably send trainees and non essentials back to ZAN a lot earlier than you could ZNY. I just don’t see the decision coming out as a Presidential decree to send every person back at once everywhere. Almost a million Federal employees are considered non-essential. You throw that many people back into society at once and you’re going to see a big spike in cases no matter what. Then that would be 100% on Trump, he’s not going to let that happen.
 
NN9419 said:
If I had to guess, I’d bet they’ll just break things down at the Federal level as well. Let each department/agency make their own decisions, and then each of them will probably decide on a case by case basis. I’d assume a lot of those case by case decisions will be made with consideration to what’s going on at each facility’s given location. For example, you could probably send trainees and non essentials back to ZAN a lot earlier than you could ZNY. I just don’t see the decision coming out as a Presidential decree to send every person back at once everywhere. Almost a million Federal employees are considered non-essential. You throw that many people back into society at once and you’re going to see a big spike in cases no matter what. Then that would be 100% on Trump, he’s not going to let that happen.
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Wrong. It would be Obama’s fault.
 
For what it’s worth, I had a phone meeting with my OM the other day and asked the question about training resuming/when developmentals might be brought back. The answer was basically “we have no idea, things are changing every day.”

Also, someone posted on the Reddit forum today that they heard on a telecon that the hold will be extended to June 15 in the coming days. Looks like we’ve still got awhile to go.
 
NN9419 said:
For what it’s worth, I had a phone meeting with my OM the other day and asked the question about training resuming/when developmentals might be brought back. The answer was basically “we have no idea, things are changing every day.”

Also, someone posted on the Reddit forum today that they heard on a telecon that the hold will be extended to June 15 in the coming days. Looks like we’ve still got awhile to go.
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They are going to have to follow the OPM guidance eventually. Lots of states are starting to open.
 
32andBelow said:
It’s kinda annoying natca hasn’t addressed talking to us about anything. We pay too.
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No developmentals at my facility have heard anything from our training rep since the day we left. I think we’ve had 2 emails from our fac rep and then the national NATCA ones that go out to everyone. That’s been our only source of information (outside of forums like this one and Reddit.) It’d certainly be nice to be kept in the loop a little more.
 
NN9419 said:
No developmentals at my facility have heard anything from our training rep since the day we left. I think we’ve had 2 emails from our fac rep and then the national NATCA ones that go out to everyone. That’s been our only source of information (outside of forums like this one and Reddit.) It’d certainly be nice to be kept in the loop a little more.
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Even if they just said we don’t know. It would be nice to get a direct communication.
 
NN9419 said:
Yes. Although trainees really never even see him. He stops by the study room once or twice a month or when a new person shows up to try and get them to join the union. That’s about it though.
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Crazy. That’s the job of the training OM and then our president just comes in and gets you to join.
 
alphawhiskey said:
Yeah but i wonder what that means for states or cities that wont reopen any time soon like California/nyc
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The job is essential though, trainee or CPC, so state or city guidance really isn’t a factor.

NATCA fought to get the useless people out of the facility but that didn’t change our job classification.
 
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