When are we getting Hazard backpay?

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The CBA Article 81 says we get pay differential(s) IAW 5 CFW Part 550, Subpart I.

5 CFW Part 550, Subpart I.

Says

"Virulent biologicals. Materials of micro-organic nature which when introduced into the body are likely to cause serious disease or fatality and for which protective devices do not afford complete protection"

This is further explained in a memo by OPM regarding Covid-19

https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/Main/documents/COVID-19-GuidanceQA33-7-2020.pdf

To be eligible for the hazard pay differential, the agency must determine that the employee is exposed to a qualifying hazard through the performance of his or her assigned duties and that the hazardous duty has not been taken into account in the classification of the employee’s position. A hazard pay differential is not payable if safety precautions have reduced the element of hazard to a less than significant level of risk, consistent with generally accepted standards that may be applicable.


When we were hired I don't believe that the "hazardous duty was taken into account for the classification of our employment position. We also know masking up didn't significantly reduce risk...

(2) May an employee who has been exposed incidentally to COVID-19 (i.e., in a manner not directly associated with the performance of assigned duties) receive a hazard pay differential for exposure to “virulent biologicals”?

No. OPM’s regulations define exposure to “virulent biologicals” as “work with or in close proximity to . . . [m]aterials of micro-organic nature which when introduced into the body are likely to cause serious disease or fatality and for which protective devices do not afford complete protection.” (See Appendix A to subpart I of part 550 of title 5, Code of Federal Regulations.) Agencies may pay a hazard pay differential to a General Schedule employee for exposure to “virulent biologicals” only when the risk of exposure is directly associated with the performance of assigned duties. An employee may not receive a hazard pay differential under the “virulent biologicals” category if exposure to a qualifying virus was not triggered by the performance of assigned duties. The hazard pay differential cannot be paid to an employee who may come in contact with the virus or another similar virus through incidental exposure to the public or other employees who are ill rather than being exposed to the virus during the performance of assigned duties (e.g., as in the case of a poultry handler or health care worker). Also, the virus must be determined to be likely to cause serious disease or fatality for which protective devices do not afford complete protection.


The way that reads is,

If you were incidentally exposed to the public or other employees you would not qualify. We were deliberately exposed to other employees during Covid-19 Pandemic while working position.

The risks of exposure was directly associated with the performance of our assigned duties... we were not incidentally exposed to other employees while working position we were deliberately exposed because the nature of our job required it.


Is my take on this matter wrong? incidental would be more working in the office but passing other employees in the office. That is not what happened. We had to sit right next to other employees to accomplish our mission.
 
I agree with what you are saying but the FAA literally doesn't give a fuck. We aren't getting anything
We go to arbitration then correct? NATCA can show that we did everything we could.

Since guidance literally says we are entitled to it... Additionally since we had to go to arbitration we should be paid interest.
 
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For years I thought this was the most simple slam dunk way to get some pay for people who worked during the “pandemic”. It don’t even have to be full 25%, imagine getting an extra 10% for every hour worked on site between March 2020 and whenever Biden declared it over. The DOT had hundreds of millions on unused COVID relief money, and almost everyone I know in the private sector got hazard pay like increases ranging from $1 a hour to thousands of dollars in payouts.

But NATCA didn’t even try, it’s one of the main reasons I doubt Santa/Mick get anything done with pay.
 
Whoa! We going back to March 2020's 2 weeks to stop the spread. Next up will be a debate on the Jane Garvey arbitration award and the 1440 brave souls who guarded the sanctity of the career field at Thermopylae 🇬🇷


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When things are happening people like yourself are like "We can worry about pay later! Lets worry about keeping people safe right now!"

Then 1-2 years pass by and you post shit like this.

Predictable.

Pandemic ended May 11, 2023

How many hands do you need to count the months from May to September?
 
When things are happening people like yourself are like "We can worry about pay later! Lets worry about keeping people safe right now!"

Then 1-2 years pass by and you post shit like this.

Predictable.

Pandemic ended May 11, 2023

How many hands do you need to count the months from May to September?

At least you have an active imagination. It was a travesty that Hazard Pay didn't happen, but it didn't happen. Now years later you post click bait asking when we are going to get it retroactively. Lol cool cool. Where was your post between March 2020 - Sep 23 on this and how is May 11 significant in light of that? Your last few days of manic posts remind me of a kid who just discovered porn and now wont leave his room!

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At least you have an active imagination. It was a travesty that Hazard Pay didn't happen, but it didn't happen. Now years later you post click bait asking when we are going to get it retroactively. Lol cool cool. Where was your post between March 2020 - Sep 23 on this and how is May 11 significant in light of that? Your last few days of manic posts remind me of a kid who just discovered porn and now wont leave his room!

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Years later? (11 may 2023)

The guidance during the pandemic was literally "we can worry about pay later right now we are worried about keeping people safe."

translating to "You absolute piece of shit for worrying about getting paid while people are getting sick and having serious health concerns."

Now that the pandemic is over... 11 May 2023... when we can all stop being assholes evidently about wondering when we are going to get hazard pay.

You are conflating the beginning of the pandemic as when we should be asking.

NATCA shut that shit down then by painting anyone who asked was an assholes.

There is no way you are not part of the swamp because I am certain you already know this.
 
The answer is never.
You will never get hazard pay, the wording is for people who actually experiment with bi stuff. (Biological get your mind outta the gutter)

Trainees will never get a one time raise for time missed.

There are simply more pressing issues we still have to fight for
 
The answer is never.
You will never get hazard pay, the wording is for people who actually experiment with bi stuff. (Biological get your mind outta the gutter)

Trainees will never get a one time raise for time missed.

There are simply more pressing issues we still have to fight for
Trainees can get a pay raise if they stop paying dues…all that money compounded over the length of their career might make up for the money they lost during the Covid shutdowns. Wonder if any other federal agencies arbitrarily stopped career progression for certain employees during covid 🤔.
 
The answer is never.
You will never get hazard pay, the wording is for people who actually experiment with bi stuff. (Biological get your mind outta the gutter)

Trainees will never get a one time raise for time missed.

There are simply more pressing issues we still have to fight for
LOL! But it says

"the hazardous duty has not been taken into account in the classification of the employee’s position"

So if you are a virologist wouldn't the agency have already taken into account that you are going to be exposed to viruses into account for the classification of the employee's job?

If the answer is yes... then they wouldn't qualify.
 
LOL! But it says

"the hazardous duty has not been taken into account in the classification of the employee’s position"

So if you are a virologist wouldn't the agency have already taken into account that you are going to be exposed to viruses into account for the classification of the employee's job?

If the answer is yes... then they wouldn't qualify.
The union won't do it. If you want to find a lawyer and class action it at iwasexposedtoronadoingatcstuffdotbiz would be easy to do. The union is not going to do it, period. If we all want to band together email some lawyers. Someone who agrees to do it for 5% could retire after the win
 
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