Hiring Bid FAA-ATO-21-ATCEXP-71144

[jstnstgermain]

Why SYR? I’m DoD 70 miles north is SYR and it’s a nice city but 2 years to make $78k is going to be hard. $78k doesn’t get you much for a house either, property tax is insane Onondaga county

SYR is close by, I’ve got a family

 

[RB]

DSM, ILM, FXE will be my top 3.

 

[jstnstgermain]

DSM, ILM, FXE will be my top 3.

ILM is a really great area as far as things to do, I lived close to there for a while

 

[RB]

ILM is a really great area as far as things to do, I lived close to there for a while

It looks nice, cost of living seems decent for the pay.. and it'll give me some radar experience lol.

 

[Robert_Boucher]

It looks nice, cost of living seems decent for the pay.. and it'll give me some radar experience lol.

Word of advice if you are looking to move up in facility level quickly, look at a tower only that has good staffing. Although having radar experience is nice it's not a requirement to move onto a bigger radar facility.

 

[RB]

Word of advice if you are looking to move up in facility level quickly, look at a tower only that has good staffing. Although having radar experience is nice it's not a requirement to move onto a bigger radar facility.

I appreciate it dude, thanks. I'll definitely keep it in mind when making the decision.

 

[After_Victor]

Word of advice if you are looking to move up in facility level quickly, look at a tower only that has good staffing. Although having radar experience is nice it's not a requirement to move onto a bigger radar facility.

Probably the best advice I’ve seen on this thread. I thought about saying the same thing. This should be your first thought when considering your next FAA facility, do your research on current/projected staffing and average training time. You want to CPC as quickly as possible, at the best staffed facility you can. Even if it’s a lvl 5-6 over a lvl 7-9. If you want to get to your forever facility ASAP this is the way.

 

[CF]

Word of advice if you are looking to move up in facility level quickly, look at a tower only that has good staffing. Although having radar experience is nice it's not a requirement to move onto a bigger radar facility.

I appreciate it dude, thanks. I'll definitely keep it in mind when making the decision.

Gillespie can release right now. It’s crazy that they are showing up on a list. Really expensive down there but that’s a great place to go if you want to get out quickly.

edit: just adding that SEE is an ass kicker of a tower too so don’t go there if you want to chill lol.

 

[RB]

Gillespie can release right now. It’s crazy that they are showing up on a list. Really expensive down there but that’s a great place to go if you want to get out quickly.

I've got SEE in my top 8 lol. I'd like to avoid california, but that is one of the better california places if I had to go. So far my order is DSM, ILM, FXE, BDL, PAE, FLO, TOL, SEE. Hopefully I'm placed in one of those, because im about to just start working backwards from the places I really don't want to get.

Edit: Reply to your edit - Thankfully it is a little bit slower on average daily ops than my current contract tower doing the same thing so I'd learn it quickly, but I'd have to learn intersecting runways.

 

[CF]

I've got SEE in my top 8 lol. I'd like to avoid california, but that is one of the better california places if I had to go. So far my order is DSM, ILM, FXE, BDL, PAE, FLO, TOL, SEE. Hopefully I'm placed in one of those, because im about to just start working backwards from the places I really don't want to get.

Edit: Reply to your edit - Thankfully it is a little bit slower on average daily ops than my current contract tower doing the same thing so I'd learn it quickly, but I'd have to learn intersecting runways.

Lol damn where do you work. Always makes me laugh that we have contact towers doing 600+ ops a day but Napa is FAA.

 

[RB]

Lol damn where do you work. Always makes me laugh that we have contact towers doing 600+ ops a day but Napa is FAA.

CHD, our daily average is like 650+ or something.. definitely shouldn't be contract, but unfortunately there's not enough jet traffic for it to be worth it for the FAA.

 

[CF]

CHD, our daily average is like 650+ or something.. definitely shouldn't be contract, but unfortunately there's not enough jet traffic for it to be worth it for the FAA.

Yeah all of those busy Phoenix area towers should be FAA. Dumb that you guys work a little less than falcon and deer valley and don’t get benefits of being FAA.

 

[RB]

Yeah all of those busy Phoenix area towers should be FAA. Dumb that you guys work a little less than falcon and deer valley and don’t get benefits of being FAA.

I agree lol. As much as I hate the students pilots, Falcon would've been real nice to see on my list. FAA benefits and pay and doing the same thing including same runway config talking to the same planes.. Deer Valley on the other hand, those dudes work. I think they're like 1100+ a day, that'd be a whole new ballgame.

 

[CF]

I agree lol. As much as I hate the students pilots, Falcon would've been real nice to see on my list. FAA benefits and pay and doing the same thing including same runway config talking to the same planes.. Deer Valley on the other hand, those dudes work. I think they're like 1100+ a day, that'd be a whole new ballgame.

Yeah deer valley is in its own universe, maybe not the best example but I stand by the point lol

 

[After_Victor]

Lol damn where do you work. Always makes me laugh that we have contact towers doing 600+ ops a day but Napa is FAA.

I was at RNT (Renton, WA) for a year, 600-800 single runway operations/day was normal for the summer. 100+ Op hours were completely normal. Because it was so busy we washed new hires regularly, resulting in only have 3 controllers for months…it got old quick

Gillespie can release right now. It’s crazy that they are showing up on a list. Really expensive down there but that’s a great place to go if you want to get out quickly.

edit: just adding that SEE is an ass kicker of a tower too so don’t go there if you want to chill lol.

I’ll take SEE right now. SD native living in NY

 

[BravoPop]

Here’s the bacon… MKG,TOL,ILM, GSO and Y90 are the top 5 at the moment in no particular order. Depends on what the wife has to say (tells me I am numbering them) Cheers fellas!

experience is NKT fac rating

 

[IndiaIndia]

EUG, LBB, and TWF are my top 3, I think...

 

[Super Salt]

Here’s the bacon… MKG,TOL,ILM, GSO and Y90 are the top 5 at the moment in no particular order. Depends on what the wife has to say (tells me I am numbering them) Cheers fellas!

experience is NKT fac rating

Look at Y90’s stats and let that sink in.

 

[Acquired Taste]

Look at Y90’s stats and let that sink in.

Went to ojti class with a dude a couple years ago. He was prior experience. He was their most recent cpc at the time and said there was like 12+ washouts between him and the last person to cpc before him. Sounded like it's pretty complex and the airspace is very wide to the point you lose comms with planes unless you switch them to the other frequency you're working. Working complex mixes of heavies, fighters, GA, and commercial I believe, all while they're talking over each other on two frequencies probably wouldn't be super fun.

 

[Super Salt]

Went to ojti class with a dude a couple years ago. He was prior experience. He was their most recent cpc at the time and said there was like 12+ washouts between him and the last person to cpc before him. Sounded like it's pretty complex and the airspace is very wide to the point you lose comms with planes unless you switch them to the other frequency you're working. Working complex mixes of heavies, fighters, GA, and commercial I believe, all while they're talking over each other on two frequencies probably wouldn't be super fun.

Perhaps he was the one that got the hardship to F11 a few months back.