Transportation Industry Pay Increases

[Acquired Taste]

Might have been the first thing you've ever said that made any sense

You feeling alright bud? You realize I just said government intervention bad, free market good, right?

 

[the inquirer]

By socializing the losses and privatizing the gains, pilots and airlines didn't have to experience any of the risk typically associated with private employment, like your company going bankrupt and losing your job. Now, they reap the benefits of low pilot supply and high pilot demand and can demand huge increases in wages and benefits. Just another example of government interference screwing up the free market forces. It would have been "more fair" if the government didn't bail out the airlines and they had to dilute their stock, furlough/cut pilot wages, and had to restructure to survive. Then they could have raised wages and benefits as demand returned and to makeup for lost wages during the pandemic.

And all the while delta execs have been zooming around the tarmac in Cayennes. Maybe they would have switched to Fords. Thanks government.

 

[FredSmoot]

That’s operating cost not profit. So again not the same thing. Delta’s “budget” is like 40 billion.

It’s all profit, it’s all free money that the agency doesn’t have to return to a shareholder.

 

[hpwjuicebox]

Banging out on scheduled OT is no different then banging out on a normal shift. Every facility is different but you can be put on SL abuse

And then what? They going to give me days on the beach when we are below numbers? Fire me when they have no staffing?

FWIW I work 90%+ of my OTs but getting a sick leave letter (that sticks once natca gets involved) should be the least of anyone’s worries. Hell you aren’t even on sick leave you are on RDO leave and last time I checked my LES my RDO leave balance was full.

 

[32andBelow]

Only rookies bang out on OT. Bang out on Monday

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

Only rookies bang out on OT. Bang out on Monday

Absolutely. I’ll take the 1.5 and bang out on Friday or Saturday night

 

[Mc15]

With a lot less responsibility if we’re being honest.

You’re grossly underestimating how slow some of these facilities are

 

[jorgeluis161]

Absolutely. I’ll take the 1.5 and bang out on Friday or Saturday night

This is the way

 

[Mike Kilo]

This is the way

Until you’re on mandatory six day work weeks for years. The math doesn’t work with one day of sick a month and four days of OT lol.

You can keep the OT money and while we’re at it I’ll take that free “sick” leave on holidays too.

 

[JesPoobin]

Yeah, we only get raises twice a year! Practically starving over here!

Yeah. Shitty ass raises twice a year. Everyone else is getting good raises and we get next to nothing. Whoopee.

 

[Raise when?]

Yeah. Shitty ass raises twice a year. Everyone else is getting good raises and we get next to nothing. Whoopee.

Our combined shitraises don’t even keep up with inflation. This shitty job is falling behind hard on the only metric that used to be decent…

 

[Phillytroll69]

You can't compare us to other industries directly.

That said things like a whole police department quitting etc means the service workers are looming for more and ready to leave....it hasn't hit atc yet. BUT soon almost every person at 7 and below might make the same amount for a telecommute admin job (no pension though 🙁)

Until it gets to that point and requires and act of congress for a one time band increase nothing is gonna happen. For now just whine online

 

[FightingIrish2012]

You can't compare us to other industries directly.

That said things like a whole police department quitting etc means the service workers are looming for more and ready to leave....it hasn't hit atc yet. BUT soon almost every person at 7 and below might make the same amount for a telecommute admin job (no pension though 🙁)

Until it gets to that point and requires and act of congress for a one time band increase nothing is gonna happen. For now just whine online

Do you think it could try to change if Daniels gets elected?

 

[Ad1234]

Do you think it could try to change if Daniels gets elected?

Stormy?

 

[Bandit117]

Banging out on scheduled OT is no different then banging out on a normal shift. Every facility is different but you can be put on SL abuse

If you bang on OT you’re not actually using sickleave tho. They can’t get you for abusing leave that isn’t being deducted

 

[Soul_Controller]

Our combined shitraises don’t even keep up with inflation. This shitty job is falling behind hard on the only metric that used to be decent…

The January raise will damn near be the equivalent of a level upgrade

 

[Phillytroll69]

The January raise will damn near be the equivalent of a level upgrade

4.8%?

Also who is daniels

 

[Soul_Controller]

4.8%?

Also who is daniels

That was last year's I think. This coming up year is 5.2

 

[doodii]

I still think we should all sign our names as “Rich Santa” in our emails that no one checks.

 

[Raise when?]

4.8%?

Also who is daniels

Stormy Daniels